Civilization IV possible?

Mallow005 · n00b Joined: 15 Nov 2002 Posts: 49 Location: CA

I was wondering if anyone got Civ IV to work under cedega. I think it uses some kind of Direct X that isn't available from Microsoft since it's from their devel kit? Can that be used when installed with cedega? Has anyone tried it yet???
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marco.uk · n00b Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 18 Location: London, UK

As the game is quite new, I do not think that it is already supported by cedega. But take a look at their webpage (http://www.transgaming.com).

You will find there a list with all supported games and also information how well the gaming is running under linux.

Generally (I now that many people will know disagree with him), I recommend playing windows games in windows and linux games in linux.

neuron · Advocate Joined: 28 May 2002 Posts: 2370

would love to see it running in directxwine, but I seriously doubt it

Arngautr · n00b Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Posts: 25

Would be awesome, though not likely, I understand Civ3 ran very poorly if at all. That said there may be some hope, seems a Mac port is in the works for Civ3 and Civ4. I have no idea what Mac emulation is out there.

oggialli · Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:25 am Post subject:

Civ3 ran very well for me.
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Mallow005 · n00b Joined: 15 Nov 2002 Posts: 49 Location: CA

Civ IV is completely unlike Civ III. The code base is almost completely rewritten and uses python and XML scripting. It's also all in 3D. I'm sure there are enough civies to vote it popular on transgaming, then again guild wars isn't even perfect yet.
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neuron · Advocate Joined: 28 May 2002 Posts: 2370

well this game's 3d engine isn't all that, the system requirements are "1 GHz CPU, 256MB RAM, and a 32MB video card with hardware transform and lighting capabilities.", which doesn't say anything about pixel shaders and other fancy features that can be hard to emulate. Also I've heard people running this on windows98, I wouldn't give up hope of seing this working in cedega or even directxwine fairly fast.

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"The Graphics Engine Civilization IV will be using is the NDL's Gamebryo 3D graphics engine. Firaxis' PC hit, Sid Meier's Pirates! also uses it.", and if I remember correctly pirates does work in some emulators.

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http://www.winehq.org/hypermail/wine-devel/2005/01/0460.html

Mallow005 · n00b Joined: 15 Nov 2002 Posts: 49 Location: CA

wine is not an emulator!

That's all very well and good, but even windows users are having problems with DirectX with civ 4. Plus, even in windows on my decent machine that plays half-life 2 on med-high settings at 1024x768 gets slow with civ 4 with graphics on med-high.

Looks like people at transgaming are waiting for cedega 5, which comes out in 7 days. Why are there not many civ fans on this board???
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AmosMutke · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:53 am Post subject:

I'd like to play Civ IV. Not surprisingly, the current version of wine (20050725-r1) crashes during directx part of the game install.

I'd be interested if anyone has gotten Civ 4 to work on Gentoo. Windows isn't an option for me.

EDIT:
I found the TransGaming Cedega Civilization IV wiki. it's not currently supported, but apparently the installer is working.. lol..

http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/wiki/Civilization_IV

Septor · Apprentice Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 150

neuron · Advocate Joined: 28 May 2002 Posts: 2370

directxwine and cedega both run pirates perfectly, and that's based on the same rendering engine. It shouldn't be impossible to get it to run, but it most likely will require some work. So give it a bit of time and I'm sure we'll see support for it "soon enough"

fangorn · Veteran Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 1867

"Soon enough" would have been two days after release :twisted:

And for the hardware needs: my sister tried it on a Pentium 4 2.5 GHz, 256 MB RAM under control of the evil empire. After 10 minutes of trying to get the initial map rendered she quit the game in task manager (yeah, sometimes they accept something you tell them :twisted:

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alexleiker · Apprentice Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Posts: 190

I really wouldn't consider a 2.5 GHz P4 with a meager 256mb of ram to run the latest and greatest well. Well ok she meets the requirment there but does she have at least a ATI 9800 or equivalent??
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oggialli · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:51 pm Post subject:

256MB isn't going to run it at all with any GFX card it being the memory hog it is.
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AmosMutke · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:27 pm Post subject:

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satanskin · Guru Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 353

If I remember correctly, there is an option in Civ4 to use OpenGL instead of DirectX. I can't remember for sure, nor can I get into windows to check it out again right now. But I am pretty sure there was.

oggialli · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:53 pm Post subject:

Doesn't it always use OpenGL for rendering? IIRC it does. DirectX doesn't limit to just Direct3D, you know.
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Obi-Lan · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:05 pm Post subject:

The biggest problem with Civ4 seems to be SafeDisc 4.6 copy protection. And also MSXML support will be needed. So I think it may take a while to get Civ4 working on cedega...

AmosMutke · Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:40 pm Post subject:

RaZoR1394 · Guru Joined: 09 Jan 2005 Posts: 356

With Wine-0.9.2 the install fails for me just at the end. It manages to copy all files but it then crashes.
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AmosMutke · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:10 pm Post subject:

AmosMutke · Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 8:55 am Post subject:

As I continue my quest to play Civ 4 under linux, I have come across this website.

http://www.civ4linux.com/