GNUstep on Gentoo: how many of us are there?

Boomer · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject:

First of all, the 'icky' squares have to do with WindowMaker, not GNUstep. It just so happens that WindowMaker modeled after NEXTStep and OPENStep (as is GNUstep).

If you really want to understand the eloquence of GNUstep, take a look at this flash demonstration at http://www.gnustep.org/experience/DevelopmentDemonstration.html

After you've seen the demo, then decide again about GNUstep. GNUsteppers are always (almost always, sometimes they sleep, drink, go to class ...) available on irc.freenode.net #gnustep.

Boomer

P.S. Yes, there have be a few ... comments ... about the look of GNUstep/WindowMaker. A new look is in development. You can see previews at http://jesseross.com/clients/gnustep/ui/concepts/ and http://www.roard.com/screenshots/ , specifically http://www.roard.com/screenshots/screenshot_theme44.png .

Finally, a beta-version of a bootable CD for i386 is available at livecd.gnustep.org.

pafein · n00b Joined: 26 Feb 2003 Posts: 10

I'm sure this is a FAQ, but I've searched & can't find anything... I'll refrain from ranting about phpBB.

How does one convert the Gnome menu items in /usr/share/applications to work with Windowmaker? I know there's a script to do this for KDE, but I can't find anything for Gnome (and the link on the windowmaker.org site is long dead). Any thoughts before I roll my own?

necrose · n00b Joined: 02 Nov 2004 Posts: 14

gnustep-make

I'm new to gentoo

but as far as libffi and gcc 3.4.4 were not compiling with objc or gcj
but with 20 or so compiles make.conf >>> gcc-g77 (fortran) etc found this will enable options not normaly anabled.

objc has be cuasing me some other troubles

for other libs

They should make gnustep-----CVS-stable--ebuilds on that'd I'd agree

having trouble emerging some gnustep pkgs.

but since 3.4.4 is broke on athlon-xp i686 I shoved 4.0.0 and multiple use statmente prior to emerge.

objc build in new gcc also had to unmerge old gcc's first since 3.3.5 or 3.4.4 were tyring to be prime gcc

just a tip

Windowmaker and after step is my favorite desktop other than kde or gnome or enlightenment
aftersteps not bad

KDE and Gnome are nice but when you need to use X11 utils ; and run X-term Compiles GNU step desktops like WM or After steep isnt as bad of a resource hit

also a troublsome but worthwile tip Riping switchdesk rpms to Gentoo
also you can use rpm -i to get package deps for switchdesk rpm2targz to convert sources / and or bins
mk $filenamedir for temp and extract , copy what you need to were you will. and just locate the deps perl/lib?? and the py libs glic.so.numbers ignore this is just standaard system libs you likely have if not locate pkg and emerge
and it'll get and run

this is hady when you wish to theive from redhats nice tools with out the RPM sux (After 5 years on DeadHat )
and Packages as old as The Pharos Mumies (RPM should read RSPM halff the time REALY STALE PM)

I like some of RH tools ; but using tar balls at times can be hazdious to system :-(

even though you may realy need that pkg always a chance it has a LIB and it will overight an old one and sytem wont boot up again without recuing it etc.

Hypnos · Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:32 am Post subject:

fafhrd,

Good work! GNUstep isn't ready for my heavy duty use. Lack of apps, and GWorkspace doesn't make a good DE yet; Windowmaker is ugly so I just let GWorkspace draw the desktop. Some wrapping facility for 3rd party apps would be nice.

Nevertheless, I was curious to see GNUstep, and the ebuilds worked well.

A few questions from a *step n00b:

* How do I turn off the floating context menu that pops up whenever a GNUstep app is in focus? I only want them when I right click on an app.

* When I want to use a GNUstep app under an environment without a Clip (e.g. GNOME), how do I turn off the icon thing?

* Is there a Clip-type app to accumulate icons other than the one that comes with Windowmaker?
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geniux · Veteran Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 1400 Location: /home

I thought that GNUStep looked great, so I decided to emerge it. And yes I followed some threads in this forum :wink:

Anyway, when I log in to my X system nothing seems to have change, still same old WMaker, is it supposed to be this way? I've got this in my ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/autostart:

fafhrd · Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:54 pm Post subject:

geniux:

GNUstep.sh needs to be sourced by a program that itself launches other programs: i.e., bash or X. If you want to affect the X environment, you need to edit your .xinitrc to contain

geniux · Veteran Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 1400 Location: /home

Ok, now I get this:

Hypnos · Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:29 pm Post subject:

Under NSGlobalDomain in your ~/GNUstep/Defaults/.GNUstepDefaults you want a line like

fafhrd · Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:38 pm Post subject:

Better than editting that file directly is using the 'defaults' command (which also appears once your PATH is set up by sourcing GNUstep.sh).

Basically, for the error you are getting, you need to specify which backend bundle you are using. If you didn't manually choose one or the other, then you are using "back-art'. When installing gnustep apps, I've included some "helper" scripts which ease those times you *have* to set a default, like this one. You can find all of the ones installed at "/usr/GNUstep/System/Tools/Gentoo". Run each of the files in there 0) as the user you are using GNUstep as and 1) after you have sourced GNUstep.sh. The files will echo the commands they are executing, showing you a little about how the 'defaults' command works.
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geniux · Veteran Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 1400 Location: /home

Works better now, from the commandline
After doing all this I get:

fafhrd · Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:17 pm Post subject:

0)
If you find that apps are segfaulting on you, I suggest you emerge =gnustep-base/gnustep-base-1.10.3-r1. In -r1 I added support for ffcall. I found that some newer pentium-m's didn't like libffi (the default, currently). You can explicitly emerge that version, with ffcall in your USE flags, and if it does indeed fix your segfaults, please let me know.

1)
No, you do not *need* WindowMaker to use GNUstep applications -- together though, the two offer common look and feel.

2)
The files in .../Tools/Gentoo need only be run once, as they edit your GNUstep defaults.
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geniux · Veteran Joined: 19 Feb 2004 Posts: 1400 Location: /home

Thank you so much, I'll probably write here again when something fails, great support
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coriolan · Apprentice Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 273

I have the same issue: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-373327-highlight-.html. The problem seems to be the 64bits as explained the wiki: http://mediawiki.gnustep.org/index.php/Installation_of_32bit_GNUstep_on_64bit_Linux.

Mongrol · Guru Joined: 14 Sep 2002 Posts: 376

I quite fancy trying gnustep but have a couple of questions.

1) The camaelon ebuild states I need to USE="camaelon" when building gnustep-gui yet this USE flag isn`t supported by that package.

2) gnustep seems to depends on gcc 3.3.5 or lower, I already have 3.3.6 installed. Any remedy?

3) Most of the ebuilds seem a version out of date.

Hypnos · Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:34 pm Post subject:

luisfelipe · Guru Joined: 09 Apr 2005 Posts: 377

I've built gnustep with gcc-3.4.4 . Why do you say it depends on gcc 3.3.5 ??

GStepper · n00b Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 1 Location: France

luisfelipe,

I think that if you link against libffi you got to use a version a GCC that matches libffi version, which means GCC 3.3.5 and below....

If you link against ffcall then GCC version doesn't matter...

This is what I understood but if I'm wrong I'd be please to know.

Happy GNUstepping

luisfelipe · Guru Joined: 09 Apr 2005 Posts: 377

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Hypnos · Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:

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coriolan · Apprentice Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 273

I don't mean to pry, but is there anything happening on the gnustep ebuilds? All the stuff in portage is a tad old.

SoylentGreen · l33t Joined: 19 Aug 2005 Posts: 904 Location: The Hostel

did anyone get the wikipedia dvd working? i always get:

zamfield · n00b Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 1 Location: San Diego, CA

I've been toying with Gentoo for about eight months now, and GnuStep for about three of those. I'm currently
switching back to GnuStep after trying a few alternatives, so I wanted to request any suggestions or
tricks/tips from everyone who has it working. Any submissions that works or helps I will add to the howto wiki
as soon as I can. I'm currently a technical writer, and I've also volunteered to help with documentation
upstream at Gnustep.org.

In addition, I might attempt to cleanup or update this particular herd, but I can't give anyone a
time frame as to when. Much will depend on getting a thorough understanding of both the current GnuStep
environment, and the ebuild/eclass system.

Thank in advance, and also Thanks to Fafhrd for all your hard work.

Zamfield

GNUtoo · Veteran Joined: 05 May 2005 Posts: 1919

i just heard that gnustep could run mac-osX apps..with only a recompilation
what kind of interesting open-source software is there on mac-osx ?
widget?
others?