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mhelvens Guru
Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 337 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:25 pm Post subject: Gentoo and Lightscribe? |
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I was wondering if there is Linux support for lightscribe drives. I am considering buying one. And what about software to design lightscribe labels?
If this is not possible, will Linux at least recognize the dvd/cd-writing capabilities of the drive? I might dual boot with Windows XP, so I can still make lightscribe labels.
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Corona688 Veteran
Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 1204
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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Their FAQ says there are lightscribe drives for Macintosh, so it's quite possible that linux will support them, someday. Just not now. _________________ Petition for Better 64-bit ATI Drivers - Sign Here
http://www.petitiononline.com/atipet/petition.html |
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mhelvens Guru
Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 337 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks.
But if I buy a lightscribe drive, will Linux still support the rest of it? CD/DVD/dual-layer rewriting and reading? |
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mhelvens Guru
Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 337 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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I'd like an answer to this last question. I think it's yes, but I can't take the risk of ending up with a drive that Linux can't use at all for the next couple of months (years?)
I'm thinking of buying this one.
Thanks in advance. |
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cancech Apprentice
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 171
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:38 am Post subject: |
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I'm thinking of getting a Lightscribe drive as well. Right now I'm deciding between the Benq and HP models. From what I understand, then K3B plans on supporting it, but I've no idea on what (if any) progress was made, or when it will be released.
Would nero4Linux support lightscribe? Nero 6 for windows supports it, so the linux version might as well. |
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Hayl Guru
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 442 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:46 am Post subject: |
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cancech wrote: | Would nero4Linux support lightscribe? Nero 6 for windows supports it, so the linux version might as well. |
I doubt it and honestly why pay for an ugly hack of an app that is non-GPL (meaning Nero for Linux) when there is GPL software out there to burn with? I'd wait and get the drive when someone has GPL/free software that runs it. I doubt it will take long for people to get it working with GPLed software. _________________ "I do not fear computers. I fear lack of them." - Isaac Asimov |
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cancech Apprentice
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 171
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hayl wrote: | cancech wrote: | Would nero4Linux support lightscribe? Nero 6 for windows supports it, so the linux version might as well. |
I doubt it and honestly why pay for an ugly hack of an app that is non-GPL (meaning Nero for Linux) when there is GPL software out there to burn with? I'd wait and get the drive when someone has GPL/free software that runs it. I doubt it will take long for people to get it working with GPLed software. |
I agree
I just figured that since Nero 6 does support it, then neroLinux might as well (from what I gather it doesn't though). Combined with the fact that many burner come with a copy of nero, then you'd be able to run a legit copy.... at least until something better comes out. |
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bertaboy l33t
Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 604
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Hayl wrote: | cancech wrote: | Would nero4Linux support lightscribe? Nero 6 for windows supports it, so the linux version might as well. |
I doubt it and honestly why pay for an ugly hack of an app that is non-GPL (meaning Nero for Linux) when there is GPL software out there to burn with? I'd wait and get the drive when someone has GPL/free software that runs it. I doubt it will take long for people to get it working with GPLed software. |
From what I understood, if you bought Nero 6 for Windows, then you could get Nero for Linux for free.... |
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mhelvens Guru
Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 337 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Also if Nero 6 for Windows came with your dvd writer? |
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cancech Apprentice
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 171
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:54 am Post subject: |
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Michiel_H wrote: | Also if Nero 6 for Windows came with your dvd writer? |
If you received Nero 6 with you DVD burner, then it should allow you to also use the Linux version. This is the only reason, why I even considered using that program..... but it won't help you much, because as of the moment it doesn't have lightscribe support yet. |
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cancech Apprentice
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 171
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Michiel_H wrote: | Thanks.
But if I buy a lightscribe drive, will Linux still support the rest of it? CD/DVD/dual-layer rewriting and reading? |
Anyone have any information about that ^^^ question? |
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smorrey n00b
Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 30
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 5:33 am Post subject: Lightscribe and Linux |
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I took the plunge and bought one.
Works like a charm! Didn't need to configure anything, kernel figured out it was a DVD writer, on first boot!
Make sure you have all the dvd writing packages installed, and I'm not sure if it's nessecary but I also have packet writing compiled into my kernel.
It won't be long until someone figures out how to get a lightscribe drive to actually burn the picture under linux, and I'm considering giving it a shot under Win4Lin to see if that will work in the meantime.
*update*
Hmm looking under kde's configuration tool is showing a new device that seems to look almost like a printer!
I wonder if thats the ticket right there.
I'm going to go to Walmart and try to find some lightscribe media, then see if I can set this new "printer" up! |
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slopshid n00b
Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Posts: 13
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Very interesting... keep us updated! |
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smorrey n00b
Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 30
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 4:47 am Post subject: Bah! |
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Ok, the new printer looking thing turned out to simply be present due to the fact that I had to do a recompile on my kernel the night before, and while adding DVD Packet Writing I also added PnP Bios and SuperIO support.
In short, it's the printer I already had hooked up before, but never successfully configured (I think it may have an issue somewhere in it's firmware, but thats a story for another day)
So back to square one, I hope some smart Linuxer or Gentooer gets this whole LightScribe thing figured out, or LightScribe releases a Linux Driver or something.
Anyways sorry for the red herring, however the drive does make very nice DVD's really fast. |
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cancech Apprentice
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 171
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2005 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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How did you get the DVD burner itself to work? I bought the HP 640C and I can access DVDs, burn CDs, but when I try to burn a dvd it always fails...
I tried to burn a dvd and here's what the output is
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HP DVD Writer 640c CS30 (/dev/hdd, ) at /mnt/cdrom [CD-R; CD-RW; CD-ROM; DVD-ROM; DVD-R; DVD-RW; DVD+R; DVD+RW] [DVD-ROM; DVD-R Sequential; DVD-RW Sequential; DVD+RW; DVD+R; DVD+R Double Layer; CD-ROM; CD-R; CD-RW] [SAO; TAO; RAW; SAO/R16; RAW/R96R]
HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B 0C21 (/dev/hdc, ) at /mnt/dvd [CD-ROM; DVD-ROM; DVD+R] [DVD-ROM; DVD+R Double Layer; CD-ROM] [None]
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K3b Version: 0.11.24
KDE Version: 3.3.2
QT Version: 3.3.4
Kernel: 2.6.10-gentoo-r6
growisofs
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Executing 'builtin_dd if=/home/cancech/backup.iso of=/dev/hdd obs=32k seek=0'
/dev/hdd: "Current Write Speed" is 8.2x1385KBps.
0/4242046976 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:??
0/4242046976 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:??
0/4242046976 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:??
0/4242046976 ( 0.0%) @0x, remaining ??:??
9797632/4242046976 ( 0.2%) @2.1x, remaining 143:59
24543232/4242046976 ( 0.6%) @3.1x, remaining 65:52
34242560/4242046976 ( 0.8%) @2.0x, remaining 53:14
42893312/4242046976 ( 1.0%) @1.8x, remaining 48:56
51773440/4242046976 ( 1.2%) @1.9x, remaining 44:30
60588032/4242046976 ( 1.4%) @1.9x, remaining 41:24
68583424/4242046976 ( 1.6%) @1.7x, remaining 40:34
77463552/4242046976 ( 1.8%) @1.9x, remaining 38:31
(more of the same)
1573289984/4242046976 (37.1%) @1.8x, remaining 17:35
1582071808/4242046976 (37.3%) @1.8x, remaining 17:30
1590853632/4242046976 (37.5%) @1.9x, remaining 17:26
1599635456/4242046976 (37.7%) @1.9x, remaining 17:23
1608417280/4242046976 (37.9%) @1.9x, remaining 17:19
1617199104/4242046976 (38.1%) @1.9x, remaining 17:15
:-[ WRITE@LBA=c0cb0h failed with SK=3h/ASC=0Ch/ACQ=00h]: Input/output error
:-( write failed: Input/output error
/dev/hdd: flushing cache
/dev/hdd: closing track
/dev/hdd: closing disc
:-[ CLOSE SESSION failed with SK=5h/ASC=72h/ACQ=03h]: Input/output error
growisofs comand:
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/usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/home/cancech/downloads/DC/Games/MOHPA/mohpa-dvd.iso -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -dvd-compat -speed=8
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In this case only 1.5GB out of the total of 4.0GB was burned.
When I try to add some files to a dvd then I get the following error
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HP DVD Writer 640c CS30 (/dev/hdd, ) at /mnt/cdrom [CD-R; CD-RW; CD-ROM; DVD-ROM; DVD-R; DVD-RW; DVD+R; DVD+RW] [DVD-ROM; DVD-R Sequential; DVD-RW Sequential; DVD+RW; DVD+R; DVD+R Double Layer; CD-ROM; CD-R; CD-RW] [SAO; TAO; RAW; SAO/R16; RAW/R96R]
HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B 0C21 (/dev/hdc, ) at /mnt/dvd [CD-ROM; DVD-ROM; DVD+R] [DVD-ROM; DVD+R Double Layer; CD-ROM] [None]
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K3b Version: 0.11.24
KDE Version: 3.3.2
QT Version: 3.3.4
Kernel: 2.6.10-gentoo-r6
growisofs
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:-( unable to PREVENT MEDIA REMOVAL: Operation not permitted
growisofs comand:
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/usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=dao -dvd-compat -speed=8 -gui -graft-points -volid K3b data project -volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR VERSION 0.11.24 (C) 2003 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher -preparer K3b - Version 0.11.24 -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-cancech/k3bLp6Bea.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-cancech/k3bj6UDEb.tmp -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 2 -path-list /tmp/kde-cancech/k3bamUizb.tmp
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Any ideas what the problem could be, or where to find more information about it? I've already lost 4 dvds to this problem, and I'd rather not lose any more
In case it's of any help the blank media I've been using is: FujiFilm DVD+R 8x
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smorrey n00b
Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 30
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 12:16 am Post subject: Kernel mode drivers? |
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Not sure if it makes any difference but I added the kernel mode drivers, including packet writing and recompiled my kernel.
One wierd thing though and this may just be my external player, is that the DVD's after being written only seem to be readable on my computer, this could however be due to the fact that I have a $49.00 walmart special Apex dvd player. |
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cancech Apprentice
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 171
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 2:00 am Post subject: Re: Kernel mode drivers? |
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smorrey wrote: | Not sure if it makes any difference but I added the kernel mode drivers, including packet writing and recompiled my kernel.
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hmmm.....
I had packet writing enabled as a module, so I loaded it and the burn process didn't even start when I tried to burn the same dvd image
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HP DVD Writer 640c CS30 (/dev/hdd, ) at /mnt/cdrom [CD-R; CD-RW; CD-ROM; DVD-ROM; DVD-R; DVD-RW; DVD+R; DVD+RW] [DVD-ROM; DVD-R Sequential; DVD-RW Sequential; DVD+RW; DVD+R; DVD+R Double Layer; CD-ROM; CD-R; CD-RW] [SAO; TAO; RAW; SAO/R16; RAW/R96R]
HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8163B 0C21 (/dev/hdc, ) at /mnt/dvd [CD-ROM; DVD-ROM; DVD+R] [DVD-ROM; DVD+R Double Layer; CD-ROM] [None]
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K3b Version: 0.11.24
KDE Version: 3.3.2
QT Version: 3.3.4
Kernel: 2.6.10-gentoo-r6
growisofs
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Executing 'builtin_dd if=/home/cancech/backup.iso of=/dev/hdd obs=32k seek=0'
:-( unable to PREVENT MEDIA REMOVAL: Operation not permitted
growisofs comand:
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/usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/home/cancech/downloads/DC/Games/MOHPA/mohpa-dvd.iso -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -dvd-compat -speed=8
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Would this be considered progress?
Quote: | One wierd thing though and this may just be my external player, is that the DVD's after being written only seem to be readable on my computer, this could however be due to the fact that I have a $49.00 walmart special Apex dvd player |
I've heard that if you try to burn a movie to a DVD+R then older DVD players won't be able to play them. Maybe the same can be said of cheap ones? |
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smorrey n00b
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2005 5:08 am Post subject: |
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Ok, yeah that makes sense they probably have used the older hardware to make the Walmart special.
Incidently my KDE is 3.4+ I noticed yours is alot older, I dunno but maybe thats the issue. |
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cancech Apprentice
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 171
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 1:40 am Post subject: |
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smorrey wrote: | Ok, yeah that makes sense they probably have used the older hardware to make the Walmart special.
Incidently my KDE is 3.4+ I noticed yours is alot older, I dunno but maybe thats the issue. |
Could be..... I just didn't feel like spending a day recompiling the new version, I just want to make backups of my stuff so that I can reinstall Gentoo again. I'll try getting a different burning program and seeing if that helps. Maybe the NeroLinux test version is good for something after all..... |
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cancech Apprentice
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 171
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2005 4:32 am Post subject: |
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I think the problem why I can't burn with K3B is due to the fact that K3B isn't playing well with my version of dvd+rw-tools. I installed tkdvd and I was getting the same problem. I updated tkdvd and the problem went away.... I might try installing an older version of dvd+rw-tools tommorow and try it with K3B to test my theory, but for now I'm happy that I can finally use my dvd burner. |
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augury l33t
Joined: 22 May 2004 Posts: 722 Location: philadelphia
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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cancech wrote: | I think the problem why I can't burn with K3B is due to the fact that K3B isn't playing well with my version of dvd+rw-tools. I installed tkdvd and I was getting the same problem. I updated tkdvd and the problem went away.... I might try installing an older version of dvd+rw-tools tommorow and try it with K3B to test my theory, but for now I'm happy that I can finally use my dvd burner. |
I had this problem when the permissions didn't allow tmp files to be created. I debug'd it by running the growfs command on the command line. K3b also doesn't dvdrtools. I put them both on. I hope lightscribe works.
[blocks B ] app-cdr/dvdrtools (is blocking app-cdr/cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha01-r2)
[ebuild UD] app-cdr/cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha01-r2 [2.01.01_alpha03-r1] +on-the-fly-crypt +unicode 1,395 kB |
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remcohn n00b
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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already any news on the lightscribe subject? |
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augury l33t
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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For burning or labeling? |
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remcohn n00b
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:36 am Post subject: |
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labeling |
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molot Apprentice
Joined: 26 Feb 2005 Posts: 214 Location: Warsaw, Poland
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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I've bought lightscribe driver, simply becaouse it have cost me 2$ more than one without lightscribe would And while I may burn dvd's properly, I don't have any idea how to label it. I'm a bit angry on that issue. _________________ "I just have to run faster than the slowest party member" |
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