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Linux-Spielkind
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 Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 9:45 pm Post subject: kde + simplfied chinese + chinese input e.g. xcin |
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Hello everybodoy!!!
Is it generaly possible to input chinese in KDE. I searched everywhere for HOWTOS but the were mostly in chinese and actually my chinese is very very limited. 
So is there anyboy who can show my step by step how do do it??
While playing around with the kde language pack I was able to switch to what they call simplyfied chinese, but i looks differen from gvim started with LANG=zh_CN.gb2312
Thank you for any help!!!
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Hauser
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 4:36 am Post subject: |
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To input Chinese in KDE, it's not necessary to install kde-i18n, that's for Chinese interface. You need to specify "LC_CTYPE" in ~/.xinitrc (if you startx) or ~/.bashrc (if you use xdm), and also the input method (fcitx, scim, etc), this is a sample .xinitrc:
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export XMODIFIERS="@im=fcitx"
export XIM=fcitx
export XIM_PROGRAM=fcitx
exec fcitx&
exec startkde
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If you use xdm, you may need to append "fcitx &" to ~/.bash_profile for the program to start automatically or alternatively make a link to /usr/bin/fcitx in ~/.kde/Autostart.
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Linux-Spielkind
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| Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Hello
I modifiied the as you told me, but I still can't input chinese . i can press ctrl + space and get a input. but its kind of useless i can't see anything just blank boxes. Programs still start in standart C . my guess would be that i use kdm instead of xdm
thanks for helping
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 2:54 am Post subject: |
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Linux-Spielkind, to make things short:
- build glibc with Chinese locales support:
- echo "sys-libs/glibc userlocales" >> /etc/portage/package.use
- edit /etc/locales.build, comment out any locales you don't want, and add the following Chinese locales (assume that you want Simplified Chinese support - since you've mentioned zh_CN.GB2312
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zh_CN/GB18030
zh_CN.GB2312/GB2312
zh_CN.UTF-8/UTF-8
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emerge --oneshot glibc
emerge fcitx (or scim-chinese) set LC_CTYPE to zh_CN as Hauser suggested (or you could set those variables via /etc/env.d/99local which will result in system-wide Chinese locale support)
HTH
If you need any further explaining, please keep posting and I will go into details 
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sunmoon1997
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:41 am Post subject: |
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i have written a script to auto-launch XIM with desktop environment. may it can help you:)
http://www.magiclinux.net/~sunmoon/download/xim-config.tar.bz2
download & unpack this package to your root file system
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#ln -s /usr/bin/xim-launcher /etc/X11/Xsession.d/00xim-launcher
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last, restart X, the script will lauch the XIM for you, but you should install some chinese input methods such as fcitx, scim and set LC_CTYPE to correct locale the input method support(maybe zh_CN) firstly.
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Linux-Spielkind
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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hello = 你好
I managed to get chinese inputsupport runnubg in a kde- konsole by changeing the ENV-Vars
like hauser told me. maybe i try to but put scribt for theese vars to the ~./kde/Autostart folder!!
Does anyone know how i get more than the 5 chinese letters in fcitx or how can i switch trough the sevral posibilities after entering pin jin???
thanks for helping
谢谢
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I use Debian, But I believe the configuration files should be the same, edit ~/.fcitx/config, there should be a line looks like this:
候选词个数=5
change that 5 to the number you want, then you can see more than 5 characters. To go to next set of characters, just press - or = in your keyboard
if you cannot see any characters in the input bar, specify a chinese font in the same file:
显示字体=SimSun
mine is SimSun, a font I use illegally (from M$), so help yourself.
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你好, hello
I worked around with the glibc like EricHsu told me, but I don't see any effects it's the same like before, please explain to me what i did!!! 
I'm still not succesfull in getting kde autoloaded with chinese support, with the exeption of the startx command. I wonder if someone knows how to get kde's displaymanager kdm or anyohter *dm to do the same.
I also need some chinese fonts for X ,because sometimes letters are not proper displayed or missing.
By the wa can some help me with learnig chinese. I'm looking for an app which helps learnig chinese letters hanzi i guess. Currently I use hanzim but it's very difficult to use, sometimes i don't find what i'm looking for.
thanks and bye
谢谢 再见
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akar
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| Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 2:41 am Post subject: |
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| Linux-Spielkind wrote: | 你好, hello
I worked around with the glibc like EricHsu told me, but I don't see any effects it's the same like before, please explain to me what i did!!!
I'm still not succesfull in getting kde autoloaded with chinese support, with the exeption of the startx command. I wonder if someone knows how to get kde's displaymanager kdm or anyohter *dm to do the same.
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May sunmoon1997's message found in this page will help you, the script he provided auto detect and launch the Chinese Input method app for you!!
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I also need some chinese fonts for X ,because sometimes letters are not proper displayed or missing.
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install a bitmap fontset which covered most of the CJK ideographs
for hi-quality Chinese fonts, may you can try to install the APL licensed TrueType font manually, improved version by Firefly, which have embeded Bitmap fonts and contain both two Chinese fontset(Big5+GB2312):
ftp://cle.linux.org.tw/pub2/fonts/FireFly/
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By the wa can some help me with learnig chinese. I'm looking for an app which helps learnig chinese letters hanzi i guess. Currently I use hanzim but it's very difficult to use, sometimes i don't find what i'm looking for.
thanks and bye
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This online resources might not what you are looking for, but i think it is worth to introduce here:
《林語堂當代漢英詞典》網絡版
Lin Yutang's Chinese-English Dictionary
of Modern Usage (Online Version)
http://www.arts.cuhk.edu.hk/Lexis/Lindict/
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eg:
1. input 'thanks', then search, results:
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V.i. & t. (1) To thank, offer thanks: 感謝 to thank s.o.;
拜謝 to thank profoundly (“bow thanks”);
鳴謝，致謝，道謝 to express one's thanks;
領謝 to accept with thanks;
答謝 to return thanks (by visit or gift) or thank by letter;
(3) To pay a call of thanks for certain purposes: 謝步，謝親，謝客，謝孝 [xie4bu4], [xie4qin1], [xie4ke4], [xie4xiao4]↓;
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It may also aid you on the difficult chinese word, you are hard to find a way to input by a chinese IM.
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EricHsu
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| Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| Linux-Spielkind wrote: | 你好, hello
I worked around with the glibc like EricHsu told me, but I don't see any effects it's the same like before, please explain to me what i did!!!
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你好
The glibc thing is just to make your system support chinese locales, it's necessary for the chinese input methods to work (correct me if I'm wrong )
You shouldn't "see any effects" unless you set your system's locale to zh_CN which will result in a chinese system (if your apps have built with "nls cjk" support)
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I'm still not succesfull in getting kde autoloaded with chinese support, with the exeption of the startx command. I wonder if someone knows how to get kde's displaymanager kdm or anyohter *dm to do the same.
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Sorry that I didn't quite catch it, do you want a chinese system or just want to display/input chinese in a english system?
For the former, you will need to set your LC_ALL=zh_CN;
For the latter, this link might be helpful for you:
View and input Chinese in an English System
To autoload the input method, let's take fcitx for example, you may try to:
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ln -s /usr/bin/fcitx ~/Desktop/Autostart/
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This is one of the freedesktop's specs, it should work on any DE/WMs which follow the specs. I use xfce4 and gnome only, so maybe someone who's familiar with kde could help you more
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I also need some chinese fonts for X ,because sometimes letters are not proper displayed or missing.
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Well, there is a chinese font which is widely used which named simsun (simsun.ttc or simsun.ttf), IIRC, it supports at least GBK charset which covers almost all of the commonly used hanzi.
However, it's a font from windows, if you don't mind using it, you could get a copy of it from a windows which supports chinese... 
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By the wa can some help me with learnig chinese. I'm looking for an app which helps learnig chinese letters hanzi i guess. Currently I use hanzim but it's very difficult to use, sometimes i don't find what i'm looking for.
thanks and bye
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akar has provided a good dictionary for you.
From my experience of learning english (though it's still very poor, I can feel my limit when I try to express something...), the best way to learn a language is to read/write extensively! (That's why I keep using my poor english and read english in gentoo forum, slashdot... everyday )
For reading chinese, maybe you could visit google's chinese news? And if you would like to write chinese...umm, I'm thinking about openning a thread for people like you who can practise their chinese there, how do you think? (Or you can open it yourself )
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dundas
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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That's great Hauser and EricHsu, after combining many things u mentioned (not necessarily all), I got all chinese worked on the system and on the input.
thx a lot! u are the best! |
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