Jackass! 2005.0 Support Group

Bob P · Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 4:31 pm Post subject:

MIRROR ANNOUNCEMENT:

We are happy to announce that we have had two web hosts volunteer their service in support of Open Source Software Development by acting as file-download mirrors for The Jackass! Project.

Two Authorized Download Mirrors for The Jackass! Project went on-line today. At present, Jackass! is being hosted on three download mirrors that have very fat pipes.

I would like to acknowledge the following people who have been generous enough to provide file hosting services for the project. The new mirrors are administrated by Eric Davis and James Dio.

Clyde · Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 6:49 pm Post subject: n00b-oriented questions/comments

Some extremely minor nitpicks about a very impressive and useful project:

1. As a n00b trying to learn the purpose of each little detail, component, configuration setting, etc. in a system as I build it, I can refer back to the Gentoo Install Handbook to understand why the Jackass install guide (section 7.2 "Emerge Services") emerges syslog-ng, grub, vixie-cron, reiserfsprogs, and dhcpcd. And although they're not specifically mentioned in the GIH, it's fairly intuitive to guess why Jackass also emerges sysfsutils, hotplug, coldplug, gentoolkit, acpid and ntp. But I have no easy way to divine why it emerges xinetd. Is it just a commonly used but noncritical option?

2. Similar to #1, is adding sshd to the default runlevel a common but noncritical option?

3. The Jackass install guide says that [compared to fiddling with CFLAGS], "the most powerful method of optimizing Gentoo lies in the area of USE flags." But aside from the nptl issue, it avoids making any comments on the relative usefulness of all the USE flags included in the standard base layout. Any n00b browsing the forums quickly learns that USE flags are poorly documented and a contentious topic. But some general guidance from the Jackass dev team would be extremely helpful. For example, since Jackass includes acpid (see #1 above), why is the acpi USE flag not also used?

4. Since resyncing after install is said to be such a crapshoot, it might be useful to incorporate heilvc's, MindEraser's or some similar update script into future iso's, or at least described the install guide.

Geministorm · Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 7:17 pm Post subject:

Bob, et al.;

Fantastic job people! A very professional ISO, I'm quite impressed that this was put together so quickly and so well done. Not at all what I expected from a group distanced by physical space and with real lives to lead (on the side?

).

I started the install this afternoon after successfully finishing the 1/3 method (lordy, that's a lot of compiling), re-partitioned everything, and was going to do the install via Knoppix, but after reading Bob's post about different media, I decided to differ to the experts...

Small comment/nit and some questions;

Comment: During the network setup, I needed to create the /etc/resolv.conf file using vi. No issue what-so-ever with that (I'm used to setting up configs by hand, enjoy it actually), but for the sake of completeness, the manual describes copying over the file to the Gentoo/Jackass! environment later (6.1 Copy DNS Information). I know you shouldn't need to hand-hold everyone through their unique network setup, and that you must assume that anyone using this methodology is proficient to some degree with Linux....I'm just suggesting this for the sake of logic.

Question #1: During the 1/3 installation and also when I did the Gentoo Stage 1, 2 & 3 installs, I had issues with svgalibs and alsa-drivers wanted a configured and compiled kernel on the system already. The fix mentioned in the forums did not solve the problem so I needed to either do a;

Sade

Sade · Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 10:58 am Post subject:

Geministorm · Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 1:15 pm Post subject:

Bob P, et al;

Wonderful!

I want to say that the Jackass! install finished and I was up and running sooner than I expected, and the manual is "spot on".

I know this is the Support Forum for Jackass!, but I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate all the effort put forth by the Jackass! team. You guys did a marvelous job.

kudos!
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todw1fd · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 21 Mar 2003 Posts: 93

strange problem with sfdisk reporting seek errors and unrecognized partition table type. Found a post on the web saying there was a problem with compiling util-linux using gcc 3.4 that leads to these errors. Could anyone else using Jackass verify that they also have the same problems? Here's a link to my original post in the Kernel forum:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-339197.html

Just running sfdisk -l should show you if this problem affects us all or for some reason just me.

fdisk and cfdisk work just fine, so not a showstopper. Just wanted to dump my partition tables out for backup sake.

Bob P · Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 3:13 pm Post subject:

Bob P · Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 3:24 pm Post subject:

Bob P · Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 4:03 pm Post subject:

Please Note:

The Jackass! Project and the Stage 1/3 Installation Method for Gentoo 2005.0 have their own support threads. My Personal Message box should NOT be used to solicit support for either of these projects.

Please post all Jackass! support requests to the Jackass! Support Group.

Please post all Stage 1/3 support requests to the Stage 1/3 Support Thread.

Please note that I will not repond to ANY Personal Messages requesting support for the Stage 1 on 3 Installation Guide or for the Jackass! Project . All Personal Messages sent to me that contain personalized support requests will be deleted without a reply.

Please post ALL support requests to the Official Support Threads, where everyone can benefit from the answers!

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todw1fd · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 21 Mar 2003 Posts: 93

todw1fd · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 21 Mar 2003 Posts: 93

No others replied with problems but I believe this will affect anyone using the same CFLAGS as in the documentation for the Jackass Project. It affected all three of my x86 boxes...two p4 and one p3 xeon server. After more testing found that backing off the -O3 CFLAG to -O2 solves the problem with sfdisk. Don't know where to make those changes in the ebuild. Got the same results with 2.12i 2.12p and 2.12q ebuilds of util-linux. Hope this helps someone...must be someone else out there using sfdisk!

EDIT: Original post had wrong bug id

Here's the corrected link http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93395 which is related to the following bug...

Bugzilla Link http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79454

firefox2004 · n00b Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 17

Hi,

I've recently installed jackass on my pc and it really rocks. Now the problem comes with the fact that matlab licensing is not nptl compatible and according to the support from mathworks, the solution is to

Raftysworld · Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 3:30 pm Post subject:

Via SSH, I installed athlon-xp Jackass for a friend. It worked flawlessly once again! But I did notice one minor inconsistency between that tarball and the pentium/pentium4. In the pentiums, /etc/fstab is partially updated (IE: with reiserfs as the chosen filesystem and the correct opts). This is not the case with the athlon-xp tarball. The fstab within that tarball happens to be the same that comes with the official gentoo 2005.0. Just thought I'd point this very minor issue out.

Bob P

Bob P · Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 6:23 pm Post subject:

Bob P · Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 6:26 pm Post subject:

todw1fd · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 21 Mar 2003 Posts: 93

Bob P wrote:

Raftysworld · Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 6:51 am Post subject:

artificio · Apprentice Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 183

I'm having some weirdness trying to compile fortran with gcc and ifc
http://forums.gentoo.org//viewtopic-t-340161.html
if I try different versions of binutils and/or comment out my make.conf, there will be fewer undefined references from gcc (iirc the min was 3), but I just can't get the linker (I believe) working...
any ideas?

gen2user · n00b Joined: 22 May 2005 Posts: 4

I currently have a 1/3 installation on a toshiba magnia 3030r server. I am changing the duties of that machine and would like to reinstall the os using Jackass! The problem is the module needed for my raid card isnt included. I worked around this before by using a 2004.3 live cd that had been created by an individual which included the necessary modules. My question is this: Can I put my modules that run the machine now (this machine is still fully functional), onto a floppy and load them after the Jackass! cd finishes booting? If so how do I accomplish this. I would prefer not to have to compile all once again especially with an unsupported version of the live cd.

BTW I have installed Jackass on my replacement web server and it runs great and was easy to install! I also use 1/3 install on my laptop and it works very well to.
Thanks in advance for any help and for an awesome installation project!

nightmorph · Developer Joined: 23 Jan 2005 Posts: 1382 Location: SoCal

nightmorph · Developer Joined: 23 Jan 2005 Posts: 1382 Location: SoCal

artificio · Apprentice Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 183

So using Jackass! has nothing to do with my error (i.e. using GCC 3.4.3 has no effect on binutils)? Do the CFLAGS just not matter for binutils as well? I'm not trying to pester, I'm just confused as to how binutils can't be effecting by using Jackass!.