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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:26 am    Post subject: GeNToo: Gentoo on Microsoft Services For Unix Reply with quote

Hi All,
No, this isn't an April-fools joke a few days old... this is serious. :-) I saw the site on gentooexperimental.org, and thought it would make a very nice alternative to Cygwin. Apart from being quite fast in comparison, it also integrates well with the Windows OS... and it's a well-integrated Unix shell like this, that IMHO, makes Windows almost bearable.

Progress:
I've already begun hacking Portage, etc to make it work in this foreign environment... I'll detail here what I've done to get things working to this point.

1. Downloaded Microsoft SFU 3.5 and installed it.
2. Downloaded the python binary from Interop System's Tool Warehouse and installed that. (I unpacked the tarball in /usr, then restarted SFU)
3. Installed rsync and bzip2 from source.
4. Downloaded portage 2.0.51.19, and compiled that by hand:
Quote:
(Unpack the sources)
# bzcat /dev/fs/D/portage-2.0.51.19.tar.bz2 | tar -xvf -
# cd portage-2.0.51.19
(Compile tbz2tool; I've skipped sandbox at this point)
# (cd src ; gcc -O2 -pipe tbz2tool.c -o tbz2tool)
(Compile the python module, and install it)
# (cd src/python-missingos ; python setup.py install )
(Install config files in /etc)
# cp cnf/make.conf cnf/make.globals cnf/etc-update.conf cnf/dispatch-conf.conf /etc
(Install internal libraries in /usr/lib/python)
# mkdir -p /usr/lib/portage
# for dir in bin pym; do
> find $dir | cpio -p /usr/lib/portage
> done
(Make /usr/lib/portage/bin/* executable)
# find /usr/lib/portage/bin -type f -exec chmod 755 {} \;
(Install the symlinks into /usr/bin and /usr/sbin)
# for f in emerge ebuild xpak repoman tbz2tool portageq g-cpan.pl quickpkg; do
> ln -s /usr/lib/portage/bin/$f /usr/bin/$f
> done
# for f in ebuild pkgmerge ebuild.sh etc-update dispatch-conf archive-conf fixpackages env-update regenworld emerge-webrsync; do
> ln -s /usr/lib/portage/bin/$f /usr/sbin/$f
> done


(Goddamn, haven't the Portage crew heard of Makefiles??)
Okay... still with me? Good

5. Edit /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage_data.py... You'll need to make some changes so that the "Interix" OS is recognised. (Best done from Windows rather than within SFU)

Locate the section which says:
Code:
if ostype=="Linux" or ostype.lower().endswith("gnu"):
   userland="GNU"
   os.environ["XARGS"]="xargs -r"


Add an elif clause below that:
Code:
if ostype=="Linux" or ostype.lower().endswith("gnu"):
   userland="GNU"
   os.environ["XARGS"]="xargs -r"
elif ostype == "Interix":
   userland="BSD"
   os.environ["XARGS"]="xargs"
elif ostype == "Darwin":


Also, down a bit further, where it says uid=os.getuid()... Until I find a way to make portage recognise "Administrator" as "root", change it to the following:
Code:
secpass=0

# Add this IF statement :-)
if ostype=="Interix":
   uid=0
else:
   uid=os.getuid()

wheelgid=0


6. Download a portage tree snapshot into /usr/portage... either via rsync or from a tarball:
Quote:
# mkdir /usr/portage
# cd /usr/portage
# rsync -avz --stats --progress rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage/ .


7. Create a symlink from /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux to /etc/make.profile. This is temporary, until I work out exactly what the profile should look like.

8. Add the 'nt' architecture to the list in /usr/portage/profiles/arch.list
9. Paste this into /etc/make.conf:
Code:
# Copyright 1999-2004 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-src/portage/cnf/make.conf,v 1.84.2.4 2005/02/15 23:27:44 jstubbs Exp $
# Contains local system settings for Portage system

# Please review 'man make.conf' for more information.

# Build-time functionality
# ========================
#
# The USE variable is used to enable optional build-time functionality. For
# example, quite a few packages have optional X, gtk or GNOME functionality
# that can only be enabled or disabled at compile-time. Gentoo Linux has a
# very extensive set of USE variables described in our USE variable HOWTO at
# http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=1
#
# The available list of use flags with descriptions is in your portage tree.
# Use 'less' to view them:  --> less /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc <--
#
# 'ufed' is an ncurses/dialog interface available in portage to make handling
# useflags for you. 'emerge app-portage/ufed'
#
# Example:
#USE="X gtk gnome -alsa"

# Host Setting
# ============
#
# DO NOT CHANGE THIS SETTING UNLESS YOU ARE USING STAGE1!
# Change this line as appropriate (i686, i586, i486 or i386).
# All modern systems (even Athlons) should use "i686-pc-linux-gnu".
# All K6's are i586.
CHOST="i586-pc-interix3"

# Host and optimization settings
# ==============================
#
# For optimal performance, enable a CFLAGS setting appropriate for your CPU.
#
# Please note that if you experience strange issues with a package, it may be
# due to gcc's optimizations interacting in a strange way. Please test the
# package (and in some cases the libraries it uses) at default optimizations
# before reporting errors to developers.
#
# -mcpu=<cpu-type> means optimize code for the particular type of CPU without
# breaking compatibility with other CPUs.
#
# -march=<cpu-type> means to take full advantage of the ABI and instructions
# for the particular CPU; this will break compatibility with older CPUs (for
# example, -march=athlon-xp code will not run on a regular Athlon, and
# -march=i686 code will not run on a Pentium Classic.
#
# CPU types supported in gcc-3.2 and higher: athlon-xp, athlon-mp,
# athlon-tbird, athlon, k6, k6-2, k6-3, i386, i486, i586 (Pentium), i686
# (PentiumPro), pentium, pentium-mmx, pentiumpro, pentium2 (Celeron),
# pentium3, and pentium4.
#
# Note that Gentoo Linux 1.4 and higher include at least gcc-3.2.
#
# CPU types supported in gcc-2.95*: k6, i386, i486, i586 (Pentium), i686
# (Pentium Pro), pentium, pentiumpro Gentoo Linux 1.2 and below use gcc-2.95*
#
# CRITICAL WARNINGS: ****************************************************** #
# K6 markings are deceptive. Avoid setting -march for them. See Bug #24379. #
# Pentium-M CPU's should not enable sse2 until at least gcc-3.4. Bug 50616. #
# ************************************************************************* #
#
# Decent examples:
#
#CFLAGS="-mcpu=athlon-xp -O3 -pipe"
#CFLAGS="-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe"
CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"

# If you set a CFLAGS above, then this line will set your default C++ flags to
# the same settings.
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"

# Advanced Masking
# ================
#
# Gentoo is using a new masking system to allow for easier stability testing
# on packages. KEYWORDS are used in ebuilds to mask and unmask packages based
# on the platform they are set for. A special form has been added that
# indicates packages and revisions that are expected to work, but have not yet
# been approved for the stable set. '~arch' is a superset of 'arch' which
# includes the unstable, in testing, packages. Users of the 'x86' architecture
# would add '~x86' to ACCEPT_KEYWORDS to enable unstable/testing packages.
# '~ppc', '~sparc' are the unstable KEYWORDS for their respective platforms.
#
# Please note that this is not for development, alpha, beta, nor cvs release
# packages. "Broken" packages will not be added to testing and should not be
# requested to be added. Alternative routes are available to developers
# for experimental packages, and it is at their discretion to use them.
#
# DO NOT PUT ANYTHING BUT YOUR SPECIFIC ~ARCHITECTURE IN THE LIST.
# IF YOU ARE UNSURE OF YOUR ARCH, OR THE IMPLICATIONS, DO NOT MODIFY THIS.
#
ARCH="nt"
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="nt ~nt"

# Portage Directories
# ===================
#
# Each of these settings controls an aspect of portage's storage and file
# system usage. If you change any of these, be sure it is available when
# you try to use portage. *** DO NOT INCLUDE A TRAILING "/" ***
#
# PORTAGE_TMPDIR is the location portage will use for compilations and
#     temporary storage of data. This can get VERY large depending upon
#     the application being installed.
#PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp
#
# PORTDIR is the location of the portage tree. This is the repository
#     for all profile information as well as all ebuilds. This directory
#     itself can reach 200M. If you change this, you must update your
#     /etc/make.profile symlink accordingly.
#PORTDIR=/usr/portage
#
# DISTDIR is where all of the source code tarballs will be placed for
#     emerges. The source code is maintained here unless you delete
#     it. The entire repository of tarballs for gentoo is 9G. This is
#     considerably more than any user will ever download. 2-3G is
#     a large DISTDIR.
#DISTDIR=${PORTDIR}/distfiles
#
# PKGDIR is the location of binary packages that you can have created
#     with '--buildpkg' or '-b' while emerging a package. This can get
#     upto several hundred megs, or even a few gigs.
#PKGDIR=${PORTDIR}/packages
#
# PORT_LOGDIR is the location where portage will store all the logs it
#     creates from each individual merge. They are stored as NNNN-$PF.log
#     in the directory specified. This is disabled until you enable it by
#     providing a directory. Permissions will be modified as needed IF the
#     directory exists, otherwise logging will be disabled. NNNN is the
#     increment at the time the log is created. Logs are thus sequential.
#PORT_LOGDIR=/var/log/portage
#
# PORTDIR_OVERLAY is a directory where local ebuilds may be stored without
#     concern that they will be deleted by rsync updates. Default is not
#     defined.
#PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage

# Fetching files
# ==============
#
# If you need to set a proxy for wget or lukemftp, add the appropriate "export
# ftp_proxy=<proxy>" and "export http_proxy=<proxy>" lines to /etc/profile if
# all users on your system should use them.
#
# Portage uses wget by default. Here are some settings for some alternate
# downloaders -- note that you need to merge these programs first before they
# will be available.
#
# Default fetch command (5 tries, passive ftp for firewall compatibility)
#FETCHCOMMAND="/usr/bin/wget -t 5 --passive-ftp \${URI} -P \${DISTDIR}"
#RESUMECOMMAND="/usr/bin/wget -c -t 5 --passive-ftp \${URI} -P \${DISTDIR}"
#
# Using wget, ratelimiting downloads
#FETCHCOMMAND="/usr/bin/wget -t 5 --passive-ftp --limit-rate=200k \${URI} -P \${
DISTDIR}"
#RESUMECOMMAND="/usr/bin/wget -c -t 5 --passive-ftp --limit-rate=200k \${URI} -P
 \${DISTDIR}"
#
# Lukemftp (BSD ftp):
#FETCHCOMMAND="/usr/bin/lukemftp -s -a -o \${DISTDIR}/\${FILE} \${URI}"
#RESUMECOMMAND="/usr/bin/lukemftp -s -a -R -o \${DISTDIR}/\${FILE} \${URI}"
#
# Portage uses GENTOO_MIRRORS to specify mirrors to use for source retrieval.
# The list is a space separated list which is read left to right. If you use
# another mirror we highly recommend leaving the default mirror at the end of
# the list so that portage will fall back to it if the files cannot be found
# on your specified mirror. We _HIGHLY_ recommend that you change this setting
# to a nearby mirror by merging and using the 'mirrorselect' tool.
#GENTOO_MIRRORS="<your_mirror_here> http://distfiles.gentoo.org http://www.ibibl
io.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo"
#
# Portage uses PORTAGE_BINHOST to specify mirrors for prebuilt-binary packages.
# The list is a single entry specifying the full address of the directory
# serving the tbz2's for your system. Running emerge with either '--getbinpkg'
# or '--getbinpkgonly' will cause portage to retrieve the metadata from all
# packages in the directory specified, and use that data to determine what will
# be downloaded and merged. '-g' or '-gK' are the recommend parameters. Please
# consult the man pages and 'emerge --help' for more information. For FTP, the
# default connection is passive -- If you require an active connection, affix
# an asterisk (*) to the end of the host:port string before the path.
#PORTAGE_BINHOST="http://grp.mirror.site/gentoo/grp/1.4/i686/athlon-xp/"
# This ftp connection is passive ftp.
#PORTAGE_BINHOST="ftp://login:pass@grp.mirror.site/pub/grp/i686/athlon-xp/"
# This ftp connection is active ftp.
#PORTAGE_BINHOST="ftp://login:pass@grp.mirror.site:21*/pub/grp/i686/athlon-xp/"

# Synchronizing Portage
# =====================
#
# Each of these settings affects how Gentoo synchronizes your Portage tree.
# Synchronization is handled by rsync and these settings allow some control
# over how it is done.
#
#
# SYNC is the server used by rsync to retrieve a localized rsync mirror
#     rotation. This allows you to select servers that are geographically
#     close to you, yet still distribute the load over a number of servers.
#     Please do not single out specific rsync mirrors. Doing so places undue
#     stress on particular mirrors.  Instead you may use one of the following
#     continent specific rotations:
#
#   Default:       "rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
#   North America: "rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
#   South America: "rsync://rsync.samerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
#   Europe:        "rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
#   Asia:          "rsync://rsync.asia.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
#   Australia:     "rsync://rsync.au.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
#SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
#
# RSYNC_RETRIES sets the number of times portage will attempt to retrieve
#     a current portage tree before it exits with an error. This allows
#     for a more successful retrieval without user intervention most times.
#RSYNC_RETRIES="3"
#
# RSYNC_TIMEOUT sets the length of time rsync will wait before it times out
#     on a connection. Most users will benefit from this setting as it will
#     reduce the amount of 'dead air' they experience when they run across
#     the occasional, unreachable mirror. Dialup users might want to set this
#     value up around the 300 second mark.
#RSYNC_TIMEOUT=180

# Advanced Features
# =================
#
# MAKEOPTS provides extra options that may be passed to 'make' when a
#     program is compiled. Presently the only use is for specifying
#     the number of parallel makes (-j) to perform. The suggested number
#     for parallel makes is CPUs+1.
#MAKEOPTS="-j2"
#
# PORTAGE_NICENESS provides a default increment to emerge's niceness level.
#     Note: This is an increment. Running emerge in a niced environment will
#     reduce it further. Default is unset.
#PORTAGE_NICENESS=3
#
# AUTOCLEAN enables portage to automatically clean out older or overlapping
#     packages from the system after every successful merge. This is the
#     same as running 'emerge -c' after every merge. Set with: "yes" or "no".
#     This does not affect the unpacked source. See 'noclean' below.
#AUTOCLEAN="yes"
#
# PORTAGE_TMPFS is a location where portage may create temporary files.
#     If specified, portage will use this directory whenever possible
#     for all rapid operations such as lockfiles and transient data.
#     It is _highly_ recommended that this be a tmpfs or ramdisk. Do not
#     set this to anything that does not give a significant performance
#     enhancement and proper FS compliance for locks and read/write.
#     /dev/shm is a glibc mandated tmpfs, and should be a reasonable
#     setting for all linux kernel+glibc based systems.
#PORTAGE_TMPFS="/dev/shm"
#
# FEATURES are settings that affect the functionality of portage. Most of
#     these settings are for developer use, but some are available to non-
#     developers as well.
#
#  'autoaddcvs'  causes portage to automatically try to add files to cvs
#                that will have to be added later. Done at generation times
#                and only has an effect when 'cvs' is also set.
#  'buildpkg'    causes binary packages to be created of all packages that
#                are being merged.
#  'ccache'      enables ccache support via CC.
#  'collision-protect'
#                prevents packages from overwriting files that are owned by
#                another package or by no package at all.
#  'cvs'         causes portage to enable all cvs features (commits, adds),
#                and to apply all USE flags in SRC_URI for digests -- for
#                developers only.
#  'digest'      causes digests to be generated for all packages being merged.
#  'distcc'      enables distcc support via CC.
#  'distlocks'   enables distfiles locking using fcntl or hardlinks. This
#                is enabled by default. Tools exist to help clean the locks
#                after crashes: /usr/lib/portage/bin/clean_locks.
#  'fixpackages' allows portage to fix binary packages that are stored in
#                PKGDIR. This can consume a lot of time. 'fixpackages' is
#                also a script that can be run at any given time to force
#                the same actions.
#  'gpg'         enables basic verification of Manifest files using gpg.
#                This features is UNDER DEVELOPMENT and reacts to features
#                of strict and severe. Heavy use of gpg sigs is coming.
#  'keeptemp'    prevents the clean phase from deleting the temp files ($T)
#                from a merge.
#  'keepwork'    prevents the clean phase from deleting the WORKDIR.
#  'maketest'    causes ebuilds to perform testing phases if they are capable
#                of it. Some packages support this automaticaly via makefiles.
#  'noauto'      causes ebuild to perform only the action requested and
#                not any other required actions like clean or unpack -- for
#                debugging purposes only.
#  'noclean'     prevents portage from removing the source and temporary files
#                after a merge -- for debugging purposes only.
#  'nostrip'     prevents the stripping of binaries.
#  'notitles'    disables xterm titlebar updates (which contain status info).
#  'sandbox'     enables sandboxing when running emerge and ebuild.
#  'strict'      causes portage to react strongly to conditions that are
#                potentially dangerous, like missing/incorrect Manifest files.
#  'userpriv'    allows portage to drop root privileges while it is compiling,
#                as a security measure.  As a side effect this can remove
#                sandbox access violations for users.
#  'usersandbox' enables sandboxing while portage is running under userpriv.
#FEATURES="sandbox buildpkg ccache distcc userpriv usersandbox notitles noclean
noauto cvs keeptemp keepwork autoaddcvs"
#FEATURES="sandbox ccache distcc distlocks autoaddcvs"
#
# CCACHE_SIZE sets the space use limitations for ccache. The default size is
#     2G, and will be set if not defined otherwise and ccache is in features.
#     Portage will set the default ccache dir if it is not present in the
#     user's environment, for userpriv it sets: ${PORTAGE_TMPDIR}/ccache
#     (/var/tmp/ccache), and for regular use the default is /root/.ccache.
#     Sizes are specified with 'G' 'M' or 'K'.
#     '2G' for 2 gigabytes, '2048M' for 2048 megabytes (same as 2G).
#CCACHE_SIZE="512M"
#
# DISTCC_DIR sets the temporary space used by distcc.
#DISTCC_DIR="${PORTAGE_TMPDIR}/.distcc"
#
# RSYNC_EXCLUDEFROM is a file that portage will pass to rsync when it updates
#     the portage tree. Specific chunks of the tree may be excluded from
#     consideration. This may cause dependency failures if you are not careful.
#     The file format is one pattern per line, blanks and ';' or '#' lines are
#     comments. See 'man rsync' for more details on the exclude-from format.
#RSYNC_EXCLUDEFROM=/etc/portage/rsync_excludes


cat > /etc/make.conf is your friend here.

----

Doing the above... you should now be able to type emerge info and get something like this:
Code:
(10:14) Administrator@wander /$ emerge info
portage initialization: your system doesn't have a 'wheel' group.
Please fix this as it is a normal system requirement. 'wheel' is GID 10
'emerge baselayout' and an 'etc-update' should remedy this problem.

portage: 'portage' user or group missing. Please update baselayout
         and merge portage user(250) and group(250) into your passwd
         and group files. Non-root compilation is disabled until then.
         Also note that non-root/wheel users will need to be added to
         the portage group to do portage commands.

         For the defaults, line 1 goes into passwd, and 2 into group.
         portage:x:250:250:portage:/var/tmp/portage:/bin/false
         portage::250:portage

!!! Relying on the shell to locate gcc, this may break
!!! DISTCC, installing gcc-config and setting your current gcc
!!! profile will fix this
Portage 2.0.51.19 (!/make.profile.interix, gcc-3.3, unavailable, 3.5 x86)
=================================================================
System uname: 3.5 x86 Intel_x86_Family15_Model2_Stepping4
Unknown Host Operating System
Python:               [2.3.3 (#15, May 19 2004, 00:54:04)]
dev-lang/python:     [Not Present]
sys-devel/autoconf:  [Not Present]
sys-devel/automake:  [Not Present]
sys-devel/binutils:  [Not Present]
sys-devel/libtool:   [Not Present]
virtual/os-headers:  [Not Present]
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="nt ~nt"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
CHOST="i586-pc-interix3"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/share/
config /var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/env.d"
CXXFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoaddcvs ccache distlocks"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/
distributions/gentoo"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="bitmap-fonts fortran truetype-fonts type1-fonts"
Unset:  ASFLAGS, CBUILD, CTARGET, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY

(10:14) Administrator@wander /$


What Works:
- emerge info

What doesn't work:
- emerging packages (emerge FOO)
- searching for a package (emerge -s FOO)
- updating metadata (emerge sync or emerge metadata)

At the moment, emerge metadata gives me more errors than you can poke a python debugger at. An exerpt:
Code:
(10:22) Administrator@wander /$ emerge metadata
portage initialization: your system doesn't have a 'wheel' group.
Please fix this as it is a normal system requirement. 'wheel' is GID 10
'emerge baselayout' and an 'etc-update' should remedy this problem.

portage: 'portage' user or group missing. Please update baselayout
         and merge portage user(250) and group(250) into your passwd
         and group files. Non-root compilation is disabled until then.
         Also note that non-root/wheel users will need to be added to
         the portage group to do portage commands.

         For the defaults, line 1 goes into passwd, and 2 into group.
         portage:x:250:250:portage:/var/tmp/portage:/bin/false
         portage::250:portage

skipping sync

>>> Updating Portage cache:
Failed cache update: app-accessibility/SphinxTrain-0.9.1-r1 [Errno 22] Invalid a
rgument: '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.SphinxT
rain-0.9.1-r1'

Failed cache update: app-accessibility/at-poke-0.2.1 [Errno 22] Invalid argument
: '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.at-poke-0.2.1'


Failed cache update: app-accessibility/at-poke-0.2.2 [Errno 22] Invalid argument
: '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.at-poke-0.2.2'


Failed cache update: app-accessibility/brltty-3.4.1 [Errno 22] Invalid argument:
 '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.brltty-3.4.1'

Failed cache update: app-accessibility/brltty-3.5 [Errno 22] Invalid argument: '
/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.brltty-3.5'

Failed cache update: app-accessibility/brltty-3.6 [Errno 22] Invalid argument: '
/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.brltty-3.6'

Failed cache update: app-accessibility/brltty-3.6.1 [Errno 22] Invalid argument:
 '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.brltty-3.6.1'

Failed cache update: app-accessibility/dasher-3.2.10-r1 [Errno 22] Invalid argum
ent: '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.dasher-3.2.
10-r1'

Failed cache update: app-accessibility/dasher-3.2.11 [Errno 22] Invalid argument
: '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.dasher-3.2.11'


Failed cache update: app-accessibility/dasher-3.2.13 [Errno 22] Invalid argument
: '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.dasher-3.2.13'


Failed cache update: app-accessibility/dasher-3.2.15 [Errno 22] Invalid argument
: '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.dasher-3.2.15'


Failed cache update: app-accessibility/eflite-0.3.8-r2 [Errno 22] Invalid argume
nt: '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.eflite-0.3.8
-r2'

Failed cache update: app-accessibility/emacspeak-18 [Errno 22] Invalid argument:
 '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.emacspeak-18'

Failed cache update: app-accessibility/emacspeak-20 [Errno 22] Invalid argument:
 '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.emacspeak-20'

Failed cache update: app-accessibility/emacspeak-21 [Errno 22] Invalid argument:
 '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.emacspeak-21'

Failed cache update: app-accessibility/emacspeak-ss-1.9.1 [Errno 22] Invalid arg
ument: '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.emacspeak
-ss-1.9.1'

Failed cache update: app-accessibility/epos-2.5.23-r1 [Errno 22] Invalid argumen
t: '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.epos-2.5.23-r
1'

Failed cache update: app-accessibility/festival-1.4.3-r1 [Errno 22] Invalid argu
ment: '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.festival-1
.4.3-r1'

Failed cache update: app-accessibility/festival-1.4.3-r2 [Errno 22] Invalid argu
ment: '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.festival-1
.4.3-r2'

Failed cache update: app-accessibility/festival-1.4.3-r3 [Errno 22] Invalid argu
ment: '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.festival-1
.4.3-r3'

Failed cache update: app-accessibility/festival-freebsoft-utils-0.2 [Errno 22] I
nvalid argument: '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145
.festival-freebsoft-utils-0.2'

Failed cache update: app-accessibility/festival-gaim-0.81 [Errno 22] Invalid arg
ument: '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.festival-
gaim-0.81'

Failed cache update: app-accessibility/festival-gaim-1.00 [Errno 22] Invalid arg
ument: '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.festival-
gaim-1.00'

Failed cache update: app-accessibility/festival-gaim-1.1 [Errno 22] Invalid argu
ment: '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.festival-g
aim-1.1'

Failed cache update: app-accessibility/flite-1.2-r1 [Errno 22] Invalid argument:
 '/var/cache/edb/dep//usr/portage/app-accessibility/.update.2145.flite-1.2-r1'
^C

Exiting on signal 2
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There's also issues with locking files at this point. Some of these are issues I've also experienced playing with the n32 userland on MIPS -- but a lot of them are very unique.

Anyway, that's where I'm at right now... I'll keep people posted on updates :-)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is cool (if its not a wind up) not that you are ever going to be able to use portage on windows anyway (unless you can sync to windowsupdate.microsoft.com) or gentoo starts using *.exe files, lol
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No... this isn't a wind up :-) The wind up is here.

I personally don't see the point in creating Gentoo/Win32, as this would be damn near impossible, as the Win32 subsystem provides absolutely 0 POSIX compliance. Yes, there's Gentoo/Cygwin, that's the closest to Gentoo/Win32 you're likely to get.

The aim of my hacking session this morning was to start looking into a Gentoo userland on top of SFU. If you've ever used SFU, you'll probably notice it's really feature bland in terms of apps. Yes, there's X, there's an ancient version of binutils (2.13.x), gcc-3.3, no python, ActiveState Perl, BSD coreutils...etc...

For a Linux user, it's really bland. How nice would it be to simply type 'emerge FOO' and your package is installed? I've shown above that it's technically possible -- it's just now a case of working around with the bugs that stop our progress.

I've got this far, I'm not about to stop now. ;-)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you are mad, all this stuff about Gentoo on Win32 is fine but whats this madness about wanting ActiveState Perl!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redhatter wrote:

I've got this far, I'm not about to stop now. ;-)

have a look this thread.
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-125553-start-203.html

I did an emerge of gnome-2.10 using this under cygwin. Many packages emerge OOB while many other needed ebuild changes for compile and build problems(total emerged = 199, overlay = 49, injected=10). I have a working gnome desktop now. Many programs run flawlessly, many other don't.

The path is not very rosy, but you get what you work for.
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Ahh okay, I'll have a look at that... However, it looks like more of a file locking issue than a file naming issue. It's winging about files which are perfectly valid (no colons in filename, etc)... so, no idea there.

As it is, I've been flat out with university... so haven't had the time to look further. Something for the holidays if nothing else... :-D
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dude, i still think you're completely mental but bloody good luck to you, if i can help at all just ask :D
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cokehabit: Heh... thanks... Yes... I am a bit of a mad hatter... hence the nickname. (No, it has nothing to do with a similarly named Linux distribution)

We'll see if the madness pays off. :-D
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Man, keep it up!
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post a few of your aims and achievements (please no mention of POSIX).
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I would like to run this at work, already got the SFU installed, but its not that usable without some good packages.. :)
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2005 4:24 am    Post subject: Re: GeNToo: Gentoo on Microsoft Services For Unix Reply with quote

Redhatter wrote:
(Goddamn, haven't the Portage crew heard of Makefiles??)

CVS head of portage is completely autotooled, as is current ~arch of sandbox.
Cache failures are due to lack of os.path.sep usage, which... yeah. is epidemic.
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portage at work:

http://home.comcast.net/~funtoos/Desktop-capture2.jpg

I know linux zealots are going to hate me...:) it was just a proof of concept...;)

I am still Gentoo and will always be!!
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I'm installing it as we speak, looks quite interesting :)
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Heh, great stuff. :-)

I haven't had the time to look into it further ... uni has been quite busy lately. Having said that, once my exams are over, I should be able to leap right into it.

Yarrick: Well... this is the plan... is to get Portage working so we can have some decent packages.

ferringb: Nice... where abouts can I get this latest release of Portage? Is it available as a snapshot somewhere? Or do I have to wait for CVS access?

Ultimately, getting bleeding edge portage working would have some nice benefits... but we'll see... any changes though, for an official release, would have to be backported to latest stable Portage though... so I'm not sure.
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Bah, I signed up for the Interop site, and after paying it didn't forward me to registration. Sent them an email but due to the long weekend, looks like I'm screwed until Tuesday. Is there anywhere else where similar packages are available?
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Damn... it was free when I first attempted this.

and unfortunately... Python, in its default config, doesn't compile on SFU.

Mind you... Python is under the GPL... so I'm almost tempted to go bugging Interop Systems for the source to their Python binary. They'd be obligated to provide the said patches wouldn't they?
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In theory I think so, but as you know theory doesn't always mesh with reality, and I doubt you're willing to pursue it overly far :) Any chance you could send me the python? I do have an account with them (20 dollars really is no big deal), and I'd really like to mess around with it.

Edit - as a side note, Portage really spoils you. I had forgotten how much of a PITA it was to do all of this manually :)
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Another piece to the puzzle...

BASH 3.0 works... but you need to pass --prefix=$INTERIX_ROOT to ./configure. Otherwise you get errors regarding locating the current working directory.

I'm just trying the same trick with Python to see if that works.

Platapie: I'll see how this build goes... I can put the other up... but I'm on a slow link. I'd much prefer to get it built... then tell people how to do it, rather than do it all for them, and get my bandwidth absolutely clobbered.

(Of course... if I get space on dev.gentoo.org -- this will not be so much of an issue... but until then... :-D)
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you will have better luck with cygwin than with SFU. only pro for SFU is that it is a bit faster. but after few hundred MB of downloads and installs and spending a day with it, I realised its POSIX support is at best half baked and many simple programs won't build without modifications. so, automated portage builds may b slightly far fetched. on the other hand, with cygwin the portage works. although there are plenty of packages which don't build with cygwin either.
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Well... Gentoo/Cygwin, dispite being quite well established, seems a bit like a ghost town...although nothing's stopping people from reviving it.

I've started down this road though, because SFU does show some promise.

For those who can't download the python packages... I've uploaded a binary for python here. There's also a gettext binary there.

I'll put some bits and pieces up on http://dev.gentoo.org/~redhatter/nt-sfu/ (now I have a place to put it ;-) ) At the moment, there's very little there... but that will change.

As yet, I still haven't figured out how to get python to compile... I've tried v2.4.1 as well as v2.3.4 and v2.3.5... the binary above is v2.3.3... and unfortunately, I have not a clue how it was produced.... but we'll crack that eventually. :-)

For the moment though... university end-semester exams are jostling for my attention. :roll:
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Okay... just an update on what's happening... I just tried the CVS HEAD release of portage tonight...

The good news, emerge metadata seems to do something useful.
The bad news, emerge PACKAGE goes so far, then appears to hang.

I haven't tried anything else as yet... I've got a digital logic exam comming up, so that's demanding my attention just now... but with this, I'd say a breakthrough is definately likely in the near future. :-)
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Redhatter wrote:
Okay... just an update on what's happening... I just tried the CVS HEAD release of portage tonight...

The good news, emerge metadata seems to do something useful.
The bad news, emerge PACKAGE goes so far, then appears to hang.

Change the shebang of ebuild-daemon.sh to bash -x , run it, and see where it hangs.

Could strace it, but I'd go this route first.
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Any further news?

I'm just trying to repeat what you have done at the moment...
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I was updating cygwin today and I remembered this post :P
I guess I better keep on updating cygwin ;P

Anyway, keep the good work! And don't forget support for Windows Vista! ;P
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