Post closed without any reason

DremK · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 83

A post mine has been closed without any reason!

This is a serie of private messages between 'pjp' and me:

pjp · Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 7:22 pm Post subject:

The reason is spam. You are obviously disputing that. And as I alreay indicated, we're discussing it. So whats the reason for publicly posting the PMs?

I consider it disrespectful, and it doesn't do much to change my opinion on your posts being spam.
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DremK · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 83

Let's go to see if it's clear.

You closed this post with the excuse of the spam:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-1675190-highlight-.html#1675190

Where is the spam in that post?
Because in that post there wasn't Spam
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pjp · Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 8:22 pm Post subject:

An author search on DremK, specifying the Dustbin forum reveals these threads, which werre posted across various forums. I'd forgotten about them until another moderator pointed me to the old thread from when they were originally put into the dustbin. Thats why its spam.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-239980-highlight-.html
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-239979-highlight-.html
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-296015-highlight-.html
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-296016-highlight-.html
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-296018-highlight-.html
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-296733-highlight-.html
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-296731-highlight-.html

So, thanks for making me dig up the reason. No need to reply, just don't spam the forums.
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adaptr · Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject:

Well... it's not exactly spam - but it is annoying.

I personally find the "posting non-E to E / E to non-E forums" much more annoying than a single polite announcement of a side-project.
Okay, in this case it's not a single post, but still...

Many people creating their own kernel patchsets, for example, are not put down like this - they tend to be encouraged, even.

So should this sort of project go in Unsupported, or ...?
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DremK · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 83

Thank heavens that I have something of reason. I felt myself quite impotent.

And I continue thinking that although it had been spam, would be better if you noticed that person to dont' send spam, although it was only the first time.
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adaptr · Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 9:09 pm Post subject:

Oh don't kid yourself - posting non-English to English forums and vice versa is a very definite no-no.
Please take some time to read the Forum Guidelines (and some netiquette FAQs), then by all means come back.
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pjp · Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 9:29 pm Post subject:

It is a form of spam (wikipedia): Spamming is the use of any electronic communications medium to send unsolicited messages in bulk. ... people have done things comparable to spamming for many purposes other than the commercial, and in many media other than e-mail. In this article and those related, the term spamming is used broadly to refer to all of these behaviors, regardless of medium and commercial intent.

I would also add that "bulk" is subjective, and is at a minimum warned as a no no under crossposting rules. So, spam AND crossposting.

If its a project outside of Gentoo, it goes to Off The Wall. If ebuilds are created, Unsupported (until the ebuilds become official).
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amne · Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 11:40 pm Post subject:

Ebuild for a Live-CD? Apart from that, this forum didn't exist back then when your posts were moved. Now please stop splitting hair and accept the fact that your posts were moved to the Dustbin because you were abusing the forums by massive crossposting.
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DremK · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 83

Who has said e-build for a live-CD?
'Unsupported Software' forum covers all gentoo-related software not officially supported by gentoo. Ebuilds/software

adaptr · Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 12:24 am Post subject:

I'll try to make it more clear for you then:

You're not splitting hairs, you're being disingenuous.
As amne already stated, your posts were moved to the dustbin before the Unsupported forum was created.
Ergo, anything in relation to both of the offences mentioned above should either have gone in OTW or not been posted in the first place.

I hope that clears things up for you.
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DremK · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 83

And by the way, can be done spam in the signature?

I suppose that the rules are not equal for all.
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adaptr · Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 12:26 am Post subject:

That's right - they're not.
Forum mods and admins take good care of the forum rules, because they have a responsibility to.
You, however, have a nit to pick - and show very little regard for that responsibility.

Why should the rules or their application be equal ?
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DremK · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 83

Now one accuses to me that I am a false person.
Let's go to see if it is clear.

I at no moment have said that my post were make in Unsupported forum
I say the description of the forums to clarify that pjp had been mistaken
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adaptr · Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 12:38 am Post subject:

I didn't say you were "false" - I said you were being disingenuous.
Exactly why I said that is left as an exercise for the reader.

You keep repeating that the Keeper of these forums is mistaken in his response to your actions.
Here's a hint: he can't be - without him and the others like him there wouldn't be a forum.

Now please go complain elsewhere.
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adaptr · Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 12:48 am Post subject:

Those last two posts read like they've been mangled through Babelfish - did you use a translator for them ?
Then at least a part of your difficulties may stem from language misunderstandings.
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DremK · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 83

I used Babelfish because I wanted answer fast. But they are already corrected.
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moocha · Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 2:08 am Post subject:

Oh, for the love of Benji. Can we have this thread disposed of too? I know I could just ignore it, but methinks there's been enough flamage.
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pjp · Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject: