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 Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:19 pm Post subject: MSI RS480M2-IL, ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 chipset - Motherboard |
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Hi... I would like to know, if any know about this MOBO ?
I just bought it, and would like to install Gentoo on it, but i don't think, that the drivers for the ATI Radeon chipset, is done for the kernel yet. Tried a lot of search at google, with no luck.
Anyone know about this chipset / driver for linux kernel.
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kiel.wells
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:31 am Post subject: |
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I have purchased this board as well, and I was pretty much wondering the same thing. The ATI drivers don't seem to support the graphics chipset, yet.
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kiel.wells
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I already was looking at that page, didn't seem to help much though.
Still struggling to get the graphics chipset up and working, will try to reply again if I do.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm verry interrested in the results. I want to buy this board for a htpc, it is one of the fewer micro-atx mb with onboard tv-out |
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kiel.wells
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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It's a good board, so far, just I don't think the driver exists yet for the video.
BTW, is there a general video driver I can use for now? One that doesn't have all the fancy shizzle, but does actually give me graphics?
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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I'm using this board.
- apic must be disabled, if not the timer twice faster as normal
- PATA real fast, sound worx
- sata not tested (maybe today)
- graphics only with vesa
I played with chipID-s (integrated x300) but didn't worx
The same what Scott found |
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kiel.wells
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Any updates?
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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libata version 1.10 loaded.
sata_sil version 0.8
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK1] enabled at IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:12.0[A] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
ata1: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xF895C080 ctl 0xF895C08A bmdma 0xF895C000 irq 11
ata2: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xF895C0C0 ctl 0xF895C0CA bmdma 0xF895C008 irq 11
ata1: no device found (phy stat 00000000)
scsi0 : sata_sil
ata2: no device found (phy stat 00000000)
scsi1 : sata_sil
sata is hotswappable, i'm trying to unload module, plug a device and modprobe again |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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results:
Mar 30 20:47:51 shadow ata1: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xF895C080 ctl 0xF895C08A bmd
ma 0xF895C000 irq 11
Mar 30 20:47:51 shadow ata2: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xF895C0C0 ctl 0xF895C0CA bmd
ma 0xF895C008 irq 11
Mar 30 20:47:52 shadow ata1: dev 0 cfg 49:2f00 82:346b 83:7f01 84:4003 85:3469 8
6:3e01 87:4003 88:407f
Mar 30 20:47:52 shadow ata1: dev 0 ATA, max UDMA/133, 78125000 sectors: lba48
Mar 30 20:47:53 shadow irq 10: nobody cared!
Mar 30 20:47:53 shadow [<c012dbaa>]
Mar 30 20:47:53 shadow [<c012d560>]
Mar 30 20:47:53 shadow [<c012dc90>]
Mar 30 20:47:53 shadow [<c012d6d0>]
Mar 30 20:47:53 shadow [<c01041f9>]
Mar 30 20:47:53 shadow [<c010285e>]
Mar 30 20:47:53 shadow [<c01005d3>]
Mar 30 20:47:53 shadow [<c0100658>]
Mar 30 20:47:53 shadow [<c03ea745>]
Mar 30 20:47:53 shadow [<c03ea330>]
Mar 30 20:47:53 shadow handlers:
Mar 30 20:47:53 shadow [<f8928540>]
Mar 30 20:47:53 shadow Disabling IRQ #10
so - it's not working. maybe my fault (config, etc) but works under winXP
I've got a floppy disk with the mb (wininst driver):
g72-silr030
sil3112 silicon image
sata raid driver
for ati rs480
dor win2k/xp only
ftp://ftp.tyan.com/drivers_linux/Silicon_Image/3114/
may worx but i've no time to play. maybe later |
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xxxx
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:02 am Post subject: |
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I found a patch for sata_sil driver from v0.8 to v0.9 and I got the same result, nothing has changed.
another error: if I load sata_sil (and libata) driver the system don't restart, it's freeze when try to stop alsa.
fine |
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kiel.wells
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xxxx-
How did you go about disabling apci? In my grub.conf line, on the same line the kernel is on, i have pci=noapci, but i don't think it worked, as my clock still runs 2x as fast.
TIA
-Kiel
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| kiel.wells wrote: | It's a good board, so far, just I don't think the driver exists yet for the video.
BTW, is there a general video driver I can use for now? One that doesn't have all the fancy shizzle, but does actually give me graphics? |
I am/was interested in getting this motherboard, but I am having doubts by what you guys have been saying. Here might be a clue to solve the video issue. I found this thread:http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-105588.html. It has a lot of long xorg.conf stuff, but the post by agnitio shows that the ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 is being seen by xorg with the RADEON driver. Now, agnitio does not have that card, but the driver seems to exist.
What is your kernel version? What radeon driver are you using? What does dmesg say about your video? Likewise, what does Xorg.0.log say about your video?
BTW, do PCIe video cards work fine with this board?
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xxxx
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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sorry for my late, this week was so long.
the problem is not acpi but apic
I booted the kernel with noapic option, and worked good
After that I switched totally off apic and io-apic in my kernel config
| kiel.wells wrote: | xxxx-
How did you go about disabling apci? In my grub.conf line, on the same line the kernel is on, i have pci=noapci, but i don't think it worked, as my clock still runs 2x as fast.
TIA
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xxxx
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 5954 (PCIE)
this is mine.
testing.
| 0ctane wrote: | | kiel.wells wrote: | It's a good board, so far, just I don't think the driver exists yet for the video.
BTW, is there a general video driver I can use for now? One that doesn't have all the fancy shizzle, but does actually give me graphics? |
I am/was interested in getting this motherboard, but I am having doubts by what you guys have been saying. Here might be a clue to solve the video issue. I found this thread:http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-105588.html. It has a lot of long xorg.conf stuff, but the post by agnitio shows that the ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 is being seen by xorg with the RADEON driver. Now, agnitio does not have that card, but the driver seems to exist.
What is your kernel version? What radeon driver are you using? What does dmesg say about your video? Likewise, what does Xorg.0.log say about your video?
BTW, do PCIe video cards work fine with this board? |
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xxxx
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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not worx
my radeon driver (xorg-x11 6.8.2-r1, ati v6.5.6 (same as agnitio) doesn't seem to recognize this chip
w or w/o chip/bus ID
there is no rad. xpress 200 lines in the xorg.0.log, seems my driver is older but why the same version?
| 0ctane wrote: | | kiel.wells wrote: | It's a good board, so far, just I don't think the driver exists yet for the video.
BTW, is there a general video driver I can use for now? One that doesn't have all the fancy shizzle, but does actually give me graphics? |
I am/was interested in getting this motherboard, but I am having doubts by what you guys have been saying. Here might be a clue to solve the video issue. I found this thread:http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-105588.html. It has a lot of long xorg.conf stuff, but the post by agnitio shows that the ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 is being seen by xorg with the RADEON driver. Now, agnitio does not have that card, but the driver seems to exist.
What is your kernel version? What radeon driver are you using? What does dmesg say about your video? Likewise, what does Xorg.0.log say about your video?
BTW, do PCIe video cards work fine with this board? |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:03 am Post subject: |
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| xxxx wrote: | not worx
my radeon driver (xorg-x11 6.8.2-r1, ati v6.5.6 (same as agnitio) doesn't seem to recognize this chip
w or w/o chip/bus ID
there is no rad. xpress 200 lines in the xorg.0.log, seems my driver is older but why the same version?
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You got me. As I do not have the board, I cannot test multiple options. You might want to try Redhat/Suse/Mandrake and grab the binary driver straight from ATI. Looking at ATI's linux FAQ, the Xpress is not listed. I highly recommend you send an email to ATI's support people. They don't seem to take linux as serious as NVIDIA when it comes to drivers.
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| xxxx wrote: | | my radeon driver (xorg-x11 6.8.2-r1, ati v6.5.6 (same as agnitio) doesn't seem to recognize this chip w or w/o chip/bus ID |
I found a recent post about ati 8.12.10 drivers here: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-322641-highlight-radeon.html. Have you given them a try yet?
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I tried it once, but the result was lot of unresolved symbols
I'm trying later but I have more important work now |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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I'm thinking to use this board and na Antec Aria case to build a HTPC, saving money on the videon card. And it gives me 3 pci slots, which is a great selling point to me: 1 for a decent sound card, 1 for a PVR-250 and maybe another PVR-250.
So if I just want 2D, there shouldn't be any problems, right? .i.e. NIC works, pata works and usb + firewire also work. (I read from the scottstuff.net that the network card doesn't work. Can someone shed some light on this?)
Please post back if there's any improvement on the chipset support. Thanks a lot! |
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xxxx
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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| raylpc wrote: | I'm thinking to use this board and na Antec Aria case to build a HTPC, saving money on the videon card. And it gives me 3 pci slots, which is a great selling point to me: 1 for a decent sound card, 1 for a PVR-250 and maybe another PVR-250.
So if I just want 2D, there shouldn't be any problems, right? .i.e. NIC works, pata works and usb + firewire also work. (I read from the scottstuff.net that the network card doesn't work. Can someone shed some light on this?)
Please post back if there's any improvement on the chipset support. Thanks a lot! |
nic, pata, usb worx
firewire not tested - i have no device to test it
sata & vga worx fine under win
vga with vesa is working under gentoo
sata is no good, maybe a driver problem but i have really no time to playing with this |
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tom78999
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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I received this motherboard last friday, and too found that setting up Gentoo on it wasn't straightforward. Some notes from my experience of the last 3 days:
- SATA works fine using the boot disk, but after manual kernel configuration (and selecting the sata_sil driver) the SATA drive doesn't load on boot. The driver, however, does seem to be loaded but as a few of you have found out, modprobing it results in a hang. I can't even begin to think why this driver would work from the boot disc but not from the installed system (tried compiling as a module too). But... the plot thickens: I was about ready to give up on SATA with this board when I decided to give genkernel a go (don't normally use it). The result was that the driver and drive loaded fine, and I was able to fdisk it 
Wait... there's more; when I added the new SATA partitions to fstab I got boot errors saying that the block device /dev/sda didn't exist  I can only assume the driver hasn't been loaded fully before mounting is attempted. I could get round this by adding the mounts to /usr/kde/3.3/share/config/kdm/Xsetup, so that they were mounted just before the login dialog appears. This is acceptable for me because i'm booting off PATA.
- ATI's drivers don't seem to support the Xpress 200 chip yet, I had to use the vesa driver (resulting in a horrible refresh rate, but acceptable resolution). However, I looked at that thread 0ctane linked to about the guy who had it listed as being supported and found it very strange because I have the latest version of the drivers. Does agnitio have some pre-release or beta version of the ati-drivers somehow?! His ati and radeon modules say they've been compiled for version 6.8.99.1 of xorg, but the latest version is 6.8.2; can anyone shed any light on this?
- When I go down for a reboot gentoo will exit fine but the computer will then just hang there with no display input - i.e. I need to press the reset button to reboot. Strangely, when going for a reboot from a boot disc it works fine.
- I also had initial problems with everything being extremely sluggish, but setting plug & play aware os to 'no' in the bios seemed to help. I got the feeling it was a problem with the cool n' quiet AMD64 feature, maybe a conflict with another bios option. I don't think this is a problem now as everything seems very speedy.
- Using hdparm to change drive settings on the SATA didn't work very well, it seemed to be having problems communicating with the actual drive correctly. This is probably, I guess, down-to having to use the sata_sil driver (or maybe i'm just doing something wrong -> i'm quite new to linux/gentoo). Here's the output I get:
| Code: | server root # hdparm -d 1 -A 1 -m 16 -u 1 -a 64 /dev/sda
/dev/sda:
setting fs readahead to 64
setting multcount to 16
HDIO_SET_MULTCOUNT failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
setting unmaskirq to 1 (on)
HDIO_SET_UNMASKINTR failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
setting using_dma to 1 (on)
HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
setting drive read-lookahead to 1 (on)
HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setreadahead) failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
readahead = 64 (on)
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MSI RS480M2-IL
AMD64 3000+
512MB PC3200 DDR
80GB Maxtor PATA
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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First of all, I thank you guys for being the guinea pigs for testing this board.
| tom78999 wrote: | | ATI's drivers don't seem to support the Xpress 200 chip yet, I had to use the vesa driver (resulting in a horrible refresh rate, but acceptable resolution). However, I looked at that thread 0ctane linked to about the guy who had it listed as being supported and found it very strange because I have the latest version of the drivers. Does agnitio have some pre-release or beta version of the ati-drivers somehow?! His ati and radeon modules say they've been compiled for version 6.8.99.1 of xorg, but the latest version is 6.8.2; can anyone shed any light on this? |
As of 2005-04-25, xorg-x11-6.8.99.3 is available. Of course, it is not visible unless you do ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" before your emerge command (or having it in your make.conf file). However, I do not know if that keyword option is proper for Athlon64.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| 0ctane wrote: | | As of 2005-04-25, xorg-x11-6.8.99.3 is available. Of course, it is not visible unless you do ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" before your emerge command (or having it in your make.conf file). However, I do not know if that keyword option is proper for Athlon64. |
Ok, thanks for that, I didn't see anything about that release on the xorg website (all I saw was 6.8.2), but I just looked and it's there on gentoo-portage.com. I've still got some reading to do before I fully understand how the portage works so i've no idea if it's acceptable to use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86", but does it mean that it's best to wait until there is a release which is suitable for the amd64 architechture? Hopefully, when that arrives we'll see support for the ATI Xpress 200. |
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| tom78999 wrote: | | i've no idea if it's acceptable to use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86", but does it mean that it's best to wait until there is a release which is suitable for the amd64 architechture? |
Using the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" opens up the "unstable" branch of portage. Honestly, I have never had a problem with using it. In fact, when software has not worked for me (mplayer a year ago for example), using the "newer/unstable" version often fixes issues. So for me, "unstable" just means "less tested". Eventually 6.8.99 will be in the stable branch. How long do you want to wait? xorg-x11 and the radeon drivers will only fix the video issues. SATA problems are a different can of worms.
Think to yourself, "Do I want to be on the cutting edge or bleeding edge of linux?" Whoever figures out this chipset will get some brownie-points.
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