X.org Lockups

MalachiX · Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:01 am Post subject: Heres what happened to me...

I had an Xorg problem where the screen would freeze at random but the pointer would still move. The keyboard was locked also and I could not cancel the Xorg. However, this is how I fixed my problem.

I have a Via chipset, it has a built in integrated video card. I set this option in the xorg.conf:

Option "NvAGP" "1"

That options lets xorg know you want to use Nvidia's internal AGP. Yet when I ran lsmod I saw the "via_agp" module loaded. Nvidia should be rendering everything, that module I think was the integrated card on my motherboard. So I removed that module and the freezes have stopped. I want to know if everyone else with these problems have similar modules loaded?

HomerSimpson · l33t Joined: 25 Jan 2003 Posts: 869 Location: Ohio, USA

I have the same option set in xorg.conf but I don't see anything agp with lsmod. I still have the lockups every once in a while.
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Nerdanel · Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:50 am Post subject:

I recompiled everything (kdelibs wasn't enough, I also had to fix qt) with -ipv6 in USE flags and haven't had a freeze in over two days. This isn't yet decisive, but with other reports is indicative of things. Since ipv6 is new as a default, perhaps it explains the manifold ways in which things can go wrong. For example, if one has recently recompiled firefox/konqueror's dependencies that particular program shows problems.

Gergan Penkov · Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:24 am Post subject: Re: ipv6

Ok, at the end it is ipv6, but it is a mixture of it (my suspicion after all was true :

), i don't understand why the hell it is in the default use flags in the new portage profile. So to get it short - I don't have lockups with firefox and mozilla-based browsers any more after I have recompiled the kernel with tcpip6 in it, but now i experience the kde lockups, which as i read the thread are based on another reincarnation of this problem (I simply decided to try the new! kde3.4 and was amazed to see how it freezes the xorg)::

))well probably we must bug the developers to take out the ipv6 from the profile, because it causes so much hard to find problems and after all it is the only valid profile in the portage (which means it should be stable)::

(((

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Nerdanel · Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 9:28 am Post subject:

I just updated my profile to 2005.0 yesterday, but ipv6 had quite suddenly become the default many weeks earlier, I didn't note exactly when.

dona · n00b Joined: 09 Apr 2005 Posts: 3

I comment out all of these lines, like this:

# IPV6 versions of localhost and co
#::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
#fe00::0 ip6-localnet
#ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
#ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
#ff02::2 ip6-allrouters

Beside this I put

Section "Device"
Option "NoAccel" # ["True"]

in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf

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dona · n00b Joined: 09 Apr 2005 Posts: 3

I tried now this:

1. I commented out:

Section "Device"
Option "NoAccel" # ["True"]

in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf

so now it is like this:

Section "Device"
#Option "NoAccel" # ["True"]

2. Then I commented out glx and dri in my xorg.conf (I don,t have hardware 3D acceleration)

Here is a link about this: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml

I don't know, maybe kde is now faster, at least it doesn't freeze anymore.

Gergan Penkov · Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: ipv6

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AhronZombi · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 04 Aug 2004 Posts: 105

i can now confirm installing ipv6 dosent fix this. man this sucks. i wander how many people are experianceing this, i want a stable interface back. i reboot like 10-20 times a day now. too bad im not a programmer or a genius. please positive spirits bless this softwar eand help us fix it. ill pray for a fix
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mesch.t · n00b Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 33

Hi!
I too experienced those lockups for some weeks now - only while surfing with firefox. (with opera everything was normal)
Yesterday i installed xfce4 which also locks up my machine randomly.
I commented out RenderAccel in xorg.conf and now i'm surfing for about 2,5 hours without a lockup - which is WAY longer than before...
greetings, mesch.t

jery_wang2002 · n00b Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Posts: 3

zenbow · n00b Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 14 Location: Germany

Hi there,

My first Gentoo ran for about 1 year and i didn"t had a single crash in this time.
Then i reinstalled it from scratch (last week). So everytime i browsed the net
(with firefox) i got a crash.
I tried many things said here in this thread.

- tried nvidia-drivers x86 and ~x86
- tweaked xorg-conf with/without glx, composite, ...
- recompiled my whole system with -ipv6
- agp on/agp off in kernel/bios

nothing worked for me. I wanted to switch to XFree but it wasn"t in Portage anymore

Then i switched from nvidia to nv in xorg.conf and my system is running stable since then.

zenbow

Gergan Penkov · Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject: lockups

Ok, I surrender for now. I have had 4 days without lockups after I had compiled the kernel with ipv6, after that I decided to play with gnome and to update it to sth which shoud be gnome 2.10.1 or sth like that, the files are already on the gnome ftp and I have bumped some ebuilds, but for one of the packages I needed the new hal and dbus. I have installed them with some success ... and started the X ....ok epiphany locked the whole thing up when it started ... amazing and it is reproducible immediatly after starting epiphany the system locks up, even after the downgrade of all th stuff. Ok I am now on recompiling the whole system without ipv6. The problem is that glibc has no ipv6 flag and use the kernel headers which are probably conigured to have ipv6. I have read a little bit about ipv6 and glibc. It seems that for 1 year are some problems with the dns-resolution of ipv6, which hangs for ages (no matter that the address, which has to be reoluted is ipv4) and so on. I am still convinced that ipv6 is the problem, because the only things, which I had updated before the lockups appeared, were the profile and glibc (which probably is also guilty) and probably the headers, and some insignificant packages ::

)) I haven't update also the mozilla based browsers since than.And strangely enough with opera I don't have any lockups. Kde stuff also always locks the system.

stalynx · Apprentice Joined: 03 Oct 2002 Posts: 162

For the past week or so I've had problems with X.org locking during firefox usage. I've tried several solutions posted here but to no avail. Now tonight while I was sleeping my X.org locked up during xscreensaver. This is really pissing me off. What kernel versions are u all using? I'm using 2.6.11-nitro2 which I thought may be the culprit but apparently many people are having this problem spread over different kernel versions. I'm gonna try a different kernel and see what happens.

MalachiX · Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:01 pm Post subject: Heres an update...

I thought removing the module called, "via_agp", and using Nvidia's internal AGP fixed the problem. Actually all it did was make the system run more stable for a longer period of time, but eventually I still got a freeze after about a week.

I have been combating this problem for about a month now, I've been from site to site and thread to thread. I think we should collect and organize all this information. If we look at all the information at once maybe we can have a revelation after looking at all the information as a whole.

As for me I have tried quite a few things already. I was on Mandrake(Xfree) and it had MAJOR FREEZES, my system frozed the most under Mandrake and Xfree, I could only be in Linux for about 30 minutes to an hour before it happened. Then I tried Fedora(Xorg) and there were much less freezes, but I still got freezes about every 2 or 3 days. I started thinking maybe all the modules from those Distro's were fighting for resources and freezing my system so I installed Gentoo. Gentoo has been the most stable, I've been getting about 5 to 7 days of service before my system locks up. So one thing we know for sure is that the freezes are not distro based.

I have also done a few other things. I have messed with my Xorg.conf. I tried commenting out third button emulation and the mouse wheel. I've also switch to the new Nvidia driver 7167, that didn't help. I've even thought perhaps it was a faulty video card and bought a new one, however still...no dice.

From the forums that I have visited, I have read that when people switched their hardware but used the same harddrive the random hanging stopped. So it may be hardware problem also, consider that. I hope this helps, we really gotta fix this.

alaa · n00b Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 57

We're all pissed off. I'm especially pissed off because everytime I try one of the suggestions on this thread X decides to crash on me like right away. The evil spirit inside my machine is teasing me......grrrrrrrrr.

My current configuration is:

kernel version 2.6.11-gentoo-r5
nvidia kernel 1.0.7174
AMD Athlon XP 2400
xorg version 6.8.2-r1

Anyway, I was able to reproduce my crash. If I run Firefox and try to resize the window from the bottm corner (left or right, doesn't matter) I get a bone chilling X freeze. It immediately takes up 99.9% of my CPU and that is it........dead.

alaa · n00b Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 57

It turns out that it's not really Firefox that is making my X freeze. It's the repainting of the window. So all I do is grab a window from the corner and go nuts in a resizing frenzy. Just move the mouse all over the screen. In less than 10 seconds of this X freezes every single time.

I doubt that this is an IPv6 problem. This to me looks like an Xorg bug. I'd be surprised if it turned out to be anything else.

stalynx · Apprentice Joined: 03 Oct 2002 Posts: 162

Well here is my current configuration

x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1 (I use open source ati drivers)
sys-libs/glibc-2.3.4.20050125-r1
sys-devel/gcc-3.4.3.20050110-r2
sys-kernel/nitro-sources-2.6.11-r2

I'm going to compile linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r6 and move over to that. See if it makes any difference.

I doubt its ipv6 too I compiled my kernel with ipv6 support and no difference. Also prior to this bug I had no mention of ipv6 in my use flags. Now I put -ipv6. If anything was compiled with ipv6 support prior it gave me no problems.

Patr|ck_ · n00b Joined: 09 Apr 2005 Posts: 69

I get this problem, but instead of the cursor still moving, it does not. Everything freezes, I can't "CTRL ALT BACKSPACE" or anything... I thought it may be firefox but it happened in Mozilla, too.

I'm starting to think it may be ndiswrapper... anyone else?