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Would you like a "Solved Mark" for solved threads? |
Yes, sure, why not? |
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No, it would be too much problem for the sysadmins |
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What this guy is talking about??? I cannot understand him! |
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masseya Bodhisattva
Joined: 17 Apr 2002 Posts: 2602 Location: Baltimore, MD
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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cokehabit wrote: | well maybe not put so badly like that but if we are getting alot of dupes from 1 subject we should be making a specific point of saying to newcomers "read these to see if you r problem fits into one of those categories". Then we wouldn't have the dupes and that would be the big argument not to have the [SOLVED] mark on some posts, gone. | I don't really think having a [solved] tag would really do all that much to prevent dupes. Currently, on topics with vast numbers of duplicates, one thread that's "definitive" is selected and made sticky. All dupes of that thread point to this sticky thread when they are moved to the duplicates forum. The result of all this is only a fair decrease in the rate of new duplicates created. Some of these sticky threads have had pretty clear titles saying that they solve a particular problem and yet there are still a significant number of dupes posted on that topic. Thus, I'm not really sure how much good a non-sticky [solved] tag would do.
The two big things with reducing the number of duplicates are searching and early detection. If we can find a non-annoying way to get people to search (effective searching, which we may/may not have here depending on your opinion) before posting or if we can find a way to catch topics that seem to be popular and creating many duplicates early enough to make the sticky thread more prominent, then we'll be able to really attack the issue of having duplicate threads. Also, neither of these improvements would hinder future use of a thread for trouble shooting/support in related areas the way a thread already marked as [solved] would. _________________ if i never try anything, i never learn anything..
if i never take a risk, i stay where i am.. |
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cokey Advocate
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3355
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:56 am Post subject: |
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actually masseya, i was saying that more care could be taken to make definitive sticky threads about more of the worst offenders of the duplicates. This doesn't have to be done by mod/admin, you could say "these 20 subjects need to have definitive versions from these threads". Thus all that would be needed is a Please Look In Here First section on the forums which itself could be split into the sections we have already (kernel, multimedia, desktop etc).
This would have a few added bonuses: - It would negate the need for a "solved" button
- It would be infitely easier to navigate
- Newcomers could be directed straight there by flashing colours if needs be...
- It would be easier to keep up to date with new technology (always a problem...)
- It would give forum users a chance to give something back
- It would mean mods and admins spending less time moving things to the duplicates bin.
- All threads could be locked until such a point as they need revising.
- This would then have the added advantage of less posts in the technical forums.
- The forums would probably get a flood of people from other distros because of the searches through google (this would be great advertising)
- It would stop PJP from getting to 20,000 posts too soon just by writing "dupe"
Put a list out for people to do 20 threads that will become sticky in a new "Instant Help" section. I'm sure you'll get plenty of volunteers, once those have been completed have a look through and put another 20 out etc etc etc _________________ https://otw20.com/ OTW20 The new place for off the wall chat |
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pjp Administrator
Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20067
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:15 am Post subject: |
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cokehabit wrote: | Thus all that would be needed is a Please Look In Here First section on the forums which itself could be split into the sections we have already (kernel, multimedia, desktop etc). | What part am I missing? How is this significantly different from the FAQ Forum and [FAQ Forum] FAQs still needed? Which, by the way, hasn't produced many FAQs.
cokehabit wrote: | [*]It would stop PJP from getting to 20,000 posts too soon just by writing "dupe" | I use the 'shadow' topic feature now. I grew weary of the "Moved from" line. _________________ Quis separabit? Quo animo? |
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cokey Advocate
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3355
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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pjp wrote: | cokehabit wrote: | Thus all that would be needed is a Please Look In Here First section on the forums which itself could be split into the sections we have already (kernel, multimedia, desktop etc). | What part am I missing? How is this significantly different from the FAQ Forum and [FAQ Forum] FAQs still needed? Which, by the way, hasn't produced many FAQs. | Damn, when did that spring up???? Perhaps the reason that not many have been done is that not many people know about it, i didn't otherwise i wouldn't have suggested it!
pjp wrote: | cokehabit wrote: | [*]It would stop pjp from getting to 20,000 posts too soon just by writing "dupe" | I use the 'shadow' topic feature now. I grew weary of the "Moved from" line. | Ooooh, a new feature in phpBB? _________________ https://otw20.com/ OTW20 The new place for off the wall chat |
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pjp Administrator
Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20067
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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cokehabit wrote: | Damn, when did that spring up???? |
Quote: | Posted: Tue Nov 19th, 2002 18:00 Post subject: [FAQ Forum] FAQs still needed |
cokehabit wrote: | Perhaps the reason that not many have been done is that not many people know about it, i didn't otherwise i wouldn't have suggested it! | Suggestions are welcome, but there really has to be some initiative on the users part to find whats out there. These are sticky threads, not long dead threads on page 258.
pjp wrote: | Ooooh, a new feature in phpBB? | No, just one we stopped using early on. I decided whatever the reason for the 'Moved from' tag, it was no longer sufficient for me to post it (most of the time). _________________ Quis separabit? Quo animo? |
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Bob P Advocate
Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 3355 Location: Jackass! Development Labs
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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as a person who spends ALOT of time on the forums providing support, i find [SOLVED] markers in subject headers to be especially helpful in deciding where i should allocate my time. fwiw, i scan through at least 4 of the forums multiple times a day looking for interesting problems to solve.
needless to say, its quite a waste of time that could otherwise be well-spent if a Good Samaritan ends up reading about somebody's problem, understanding it in detail and formulating a solution for them, only to find that the problem really isn't a problem any more.
i think that some sort of [SOLVED] marker would be good for the community, in that it will allow the people who are trying to help other people to wisely allocate their time where it is needed instead of mis-allocating it by reviewing problems that have already been solved.
the idea of centralizing the responsibility for maintaining some sort of [SOLVED] indicator by placing the responsibility on the admins seems unnecessarily burdensome. that just adds more work for the admins, who are already busy people. right now we seem to be working with somewhat of an "honor" system where the individual poster is respoinsible for marking their own threads, and the responsibility for posting is distributed rather than centralized. this system seems to work well, but i've just recently learned that its not an official policy. would encouraging it comprise a simple solution to the problem? _________________ .
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cokey Advocate
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3355
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:15 am Post subject: |
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What about if we had a SOLVED button where all the solved thread went into a big pot and every day the admins searched through them, found the ones that were new probles and added them to the "FAQ" section. That way the FAQ (or whatever section, it could just be a sticky) could be the first stop for any user.
Also the names for the problems need a SERIOUS overhaul. Some of them are actually hard to find out your problem in, especially if they contain several answers for serveral problems like the Grub Error Collection (their needs to be about 6 sub-sections for that) _________________ https://otw20.com/ OTW20 The new place for off the wall chat |
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pjp Administrator
Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20067
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Others can, I won't. I've seen too many replies to "SOLVED" threads with a user needing another solution to the (at least seemingly) same problem. _________________ Quis separabit? Quo animo? |
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no_hope Guru
Joined: 23 Jun 2003 Posts: 482
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jmbsvicetto Moderator
Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 4734 Location: Angra do Heroísmo (PT)
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:16 am Post subject: |
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Hi.
Not everyone agrees with this convention, so I don't expect us to enforce it. However, you can always send a PM to the thread author and ask him to do that. _________________ Jorge.
Your twisted, but hopefully friendly daemon.
AMD64 / x86 / Sparc Gentoo
Help answer || emwrap.sh
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tomk Bodhisattva
Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 7221 Location: Sat in front of my computer
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don quixada l33t
Joined: 15 May 2003 Posts: 790
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 3:15 am Post subject: '[SOLVED]' flag in posts--note: this isn't actually [SOLVED] |
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After solving this thread:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-557515-highlight-.html
I was unable to add the [SOLVED] tag to the top message since the buffer was full. Maybe it would be a good idea to add a separate [SOLVED] checkbox the top of the message beside the subject line. Maybe phpBB already has the capability? What do you think?
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desultory Bodhisattva
Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 9410
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:26 am Post subject: |
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I think that it has been discussed before, so I merged the new topic with the prior discussion. |
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don quixada l33t
Joined: 15 May 2003 Posts: 790
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds good. That poll was issued five years ago! Nothing seems to have been done about it. Is there a way to get a definitive answer on this?
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cokey Advocate
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3355
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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don quixada wrote: | Sounds good. That poll was issued five years ago! Nothing seems to have been done about it. Is there a way to get a definitive answer on this? | the definitive answer is "no" _________________ https://otw20.com/ OTW20 The new place for off the wall chat |
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don quixada l33t
Joined: 15 May 2003 Posts: 790
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know how a vast majority in favour of this feature is ignored. I understand that Gentoo isn't a democracy-- but then why have polls at all?
And, if this idea is indeed not going to be used then please close this thread.
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mimosinnet l33t
Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 713 Location: Barcelona, Spain
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:53 am Post subject: To add "[SOLVED]" not included in forum guidelines |
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I have been in gentoo for about a year. I have seen that it is common practice to add "[SOLVED]" when a thread has been solved. Nevertheless, this is not included in Forum Guidelines. When answering questions, I have asked to add this tag to the thread when the issue has been solved, and I am not sure if I should ask for it.
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didymos Advocate
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 4798 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Go ahead and ask. I don't, but adding solved is a good practice, so I don't see anything wrong with asking. It's not necessary for it be a formal or official thing. It's just a convention that's developed over time because it serves a useful function. As long as your request isn't something like "Why don't you add [SOLVED] you stupid bastard? You got your damn answer didn't you?" or "Add [SOLVED] or I'll make you bleed", the moderators aren't going to come down on you. If another member bitches about it, screw 'em. I doubt anyone would though. _________________ Thomas S. Howard |
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mark_alec Bodhisattva
Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 6066 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Merged above two posts. _________________ www.gentoo.org.au || #gentoo-au |
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Crono81 Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 87
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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I can only say that anyone who managed to add hacks/mods to phpbb knows that adding a similar feature is as hard as writing like 10 rows of php code and adding a column in a table, and official upgrades are not a pain with such a small modification |
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mimosinnet l33t
Joined: 10 Aug 2006 Posts: 713 Location: Barcelona, Spain
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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didymos wrote: | Go ahead and ask. I don't, but adding solved is a good practice, so I don't see anything wrong with asking. It's not necessary for it be a formal or official thing. It's just a convention that's developed over time because it serves a useful function. |
Thanks for the nice answer! I really like it!!! |
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Goundy n00b
Joined: 16 Mar 2008 Posts: 42 Location: Brussels
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:37 am Post subject: [Suggestion] Fixed button ? |
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Hi all.
I just got an idea, why don't install some fixed button to this forum so when a person get its answer or its problem solved he just click up the fixed button and get its topic title prefixed by the tag [FIXED].
I saw this on a french development forums and it rox (developpez.net)
And here's the URL of the mod (note according to the presentation, this mod is bug free): http://florian.developpez.com/mods/topictypes/
Waiting for feedbacks
Regards _________________ TUXoholic |
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smerf l33t
Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Posts: 778 Location: Polska
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:39 am Post subject: |
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This is IMO very good idea.
People tend to forget about [SOLVED]/[FIXED] labels. _________________ Microsoft is not the answer, Microsoft is the question, the answer is no. |
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cassiol Guru
Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 304 Location: /BR/SC/FLORIPA
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Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:03 am Post subject: |
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hellooo
good ideia. =) _________________ before post......... try that search in google: site:forums.gentoo.org your question
please add [SOLVED] when your question is solved |
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Goundy n00b
Joined: 16 Mar 2008 Posts: 42 Location: Brussels
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