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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:55 am    Post subject: What makes you like Gentoo? Reply with quote

Why do you like Gentoo?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like gentoo because it emphasizes the advantages of free software. With portage any software you want can be used. So many other distributions come with so much I don't need I end up fighting the cruft from the beginning. Not so with gentoo.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like gentoo because portage. Its very easy to install program and update
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being able to choose what I want built into the package, the great selection of packages, and the wonderful Gentoo community.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:35 am    Post subject: Community Reply with quote

I definitely agree that the Gentoo community has made a big difference in my personal opiniono of Gentoo. Coming to Gentoo with little or no Linux experience is made possible by this wonderful forum.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Portage. Easily.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:40 am    Post subject: Debian Vs. Gentoo Reply with quote

I have a friend who seemed to claim that Debian's "portage" system is better or more extensive than that of Gentoo. How should i go about convincing him that this just isn't true?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell him Debian is the AOL of Linux. :D
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tell him Debian is the AOL of Linux. :D


Good one. I will definitely tell him that!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Windows: A car with everything welded shut and you can only buy MS Gasoline and MS Oil.
Other Linux Distros: You can run any brand of Gas or Oil but your parts all come from the same company. You can tinker with the engine (compile your own software) but it voids your warranty. It comes with leather seats but they don't match with the rest of the interior.
Gentoo Linux: The car comes to you in pieces and once assembled, you find yourself constantly tuning the carbs, checking exhaust back pressure, tuning mixtures. You can choose any kind of seat covering, but if it is leather, you have to shoot the cow yourself.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mantheorem wrote:
Omega21 wrote:
Tell him Debian is the AOL of Linux. :D


Good one. I will definitely tell him that!


You can also ask what people in their right minds would codename a distro version "POTATO."
I mean COME ON!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Omega21 wrote:
mantheorem wrote:
Omega21 wrote:
Tell him Debian is the AOL of Linux. :D


Good one. I will definitely tell him that!


You can also ask what people in their right minds would codename a distro version "POTATO."
I mean COME ON!


It's made by people from countries that think potato is a form of meat.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stonent wrote:
Omega21 wrote:
mantheorem wrote:
Omega21 wrote:
Tell him Debian is the AOL of Linux. :D


Good one. I will definitely tell him that!


You can also ask what people in their right minds would codename a distro version "POTATO."
I mean COME ON!


It's made by people from countries that think potato is a form of meat.


Perhaps something to the effect of considering a tomato to be a fruit....... :)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stonent wrote:
Windows: A car with everything welded shut and you can only buy MS Gasoline and MS Oil.
Other Linux Distros: You can run any brand of Gas or Oil but your parts all come from the same company. You can tinker with the engine (compile your own software) but it voids your warranty. It comes with leather seats but they don't match with the rest of the interior.
Gentoo Linux: The car comes to you in pieces and once assembled, you find yourself constantly tuning the carbs, checking exhaust back pressure, tuning mixtures. You can choose any kind of seat covering, but if it is leather, you have to shoot the cow yourself.


Gentoo Linux: The car comes to you in pieces and once assembled, you find yourself constantly tuning the carbs, checking exhaust back pressure, tuning mixtures. You can choose any kind of seat covering, but if it is leather, you have to shoot the cow yourself. But perhaps the car is easier to drive and add new parts.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
emerge abiword | grep VECTORIZED
parse.c:63: note: LOOP VECTORIZED.
ev_EditBinding.cpp:135: note: LOOP VECTORIZED.
ev_EditBinding.cpp:135: note: LOOP VECTORIZED.
xap_UnixPSParseAFM.c:490: note: LOOP VECTORIZED.
pt_PieceTable.cpp:504: note: LOOP VECTORIZED.
parse.c:65: note: LOOP VECTORIZED.
ie_exp_RTF.cpp:2635: note: LOOP VECTORIZED.
ie_exp_RTF.cpp:2635: note: LOOP VECTORIZED.
ie_imp_MsWord_97.cpp:871: note: LOOP VECTORIZED.
ie_imp_MsWord_97.cpp:871: note: LOOP VECTORIZED.
ie_imp_MsWord_97.cpp:2738: note: LOOP VECTORIZED.
ie_imp_XHTML.cpp:1560: note: LOOP VECTORIZED.
ie_imp_XHTML.cpp:1046: note: LOOP VECTORIZED.
ie_imp_XHTML.cpp:1068: note: LOOP VECTORIZED.
>>> Regenerating /etc/ld.so.cache...


What other linux will let you have a vector optimized wordprocessor?

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CFLAGS="-march=pentium3 -O2 -fweb -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -ftracer -fforce-addr -ftree-vectorize -ftree-vectorizer-verbose=1 "


Talking to debian people about my gentoo system is like doing the touch your eye trick with a younger sibling. You can just see their stomach pumping in and out like a sick dog.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stonent wrote:
Omega21 wrote:
mantheorem wrote:
Omega21 wrote:
Tell him Debian is the AOL of Linux. :D


Good one. I will definitely tell him that!


You can also ask what people in their right minds would codename a distro version "POTATO."
I mean COME ON!


It's made by people from countries that think potato is a form of meat.


LMAO. Still. Thats like Pork Linux
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: Debian Vs. Gentoo Reply with quote

mantheorem wrote:
I have a friend who seemed to claim that Debian's "portage" system is better or more extensive than that of Gentoo. How should i go about convincing him that this just isn't true?
Now now... debian has its ups and downs just like gentoo does... just say they're both good and let your decision be made on what you need.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gentoo is good, becuase it never does anything for you.

Debian asks you a million questions, you understand them, but you have no idea what config files it's editing (you can proabably do a manual install, but I don't know how, so it is irrelavent ;)). With Gentoo, you manually edit the config files you want edited, and the "config helpers" can't fail, becuase there aren't any. Forcing you to manually do stuff also helps you learn how Linux/Unix really works (I went from knowing nothing to knowing pretty much by doing a Gentoo install).

Sometimes it's bad ("AARRRGHHHH!! Automount my thumbdrive, you STUPID gnome-volume-manger thingy!"). But it always turns out well (*insert thumbdrive* *"flash" icon appears* "YAY!! I only spent 3 hours, and I'll never have to waste 30sec with the "mount" command again!")

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mainly because it keeps things far more up-to-date than other distros. I just tried SuSE and Fedora on one of my dad's computers and the most recent version of OpenOffice on both of them was 1.1.3. Then there's all the stuff about choice and control. So simply put, I like Gentoo because Portage rocks.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stonent wrote:

Gentoo Linux: The car comes to you in pieces and once assembled, you find yourself constantly tuning the carbs, checking exhaust back pressure, tuning mixtures. You can choose any kind of seat covering, but if it is leather, you have to shoot the cow yourself.


So we _are_ ricers... 8O :)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    up-to-date packages - the developers probably got some reasons to put new versions out there :wink:

    control about what is and gets installed - meaning no bloat like other distro's put into their standard setup

    normally everything works the way I want - want phpBB running on mySQL -> set USE flags and "emerge phpBB" 8)

    mostly NO problems updating anything - e.g. no need to go trough the hassle like upgrading SuSE 8.x to 9.x
    etc-update / dispatch-conf make it as easy as it can get

    great user-/developer-docs - the manual installation, using the handbook, isn't really hard :!:

    really great community - featuring the forums, gentoo-wiki, irc, mailing-lists, ...


hmmm.... i probably missed tons of reasons :wink:
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:10 am    Post subject: Re: What makes you like Gentoo? Reply with quote

mantheorem wrote:
I'm trying to come up with a list of reasons to convince people to move to Gentoo. What's your favorite reason?

The community :D
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm gonna have to concur with fellow posters; Portage. :)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

reiman wrote:
I like gentoo because portage. Its very easy to install program and update


Well said. I like the fact that it can be customized to a specific purpose without a bunch of crap being installed. Just what you need and nothing more.

Gentoo ROCKS!!!!

:D :D :D :D :D
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

By far the best (modern!) package selection, the package management works well, nice colored boot scripts and all the config files make sense and are pretty easy to learn.
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