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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2002 10:42 am    Post subject: IRC for gentoo installs! Reply with quote

as stated in #gentoo i was thinking that it'd be a good idea to run a simple irc app on a separate console so that people who were stuck could c&p certain things and get help on the fly!

OR, as someone else stated (which has its pros and cons) a user could just telnet into another server that has an irc app and do it that way. however, a) they'd need to have a shell account on another server b) that server would need to allow IRC connections (most don't).

i'd do it if i had the spare box but i dont at the moment. maybe in the next coupla weeks....

iunno, anyone have any comments suggestions?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if it were at all possible, the smallest irc clients i could find:

http://www.blackened.com/blackened/

weighs in at 694kb (source) and a binary weighs in at 379kb. [tar'ed and gzipped, btw]

but it gets better!

http://www.eterna.com.au/ircii/

source weighs in at 524 (tar'ed and gzipped) i don't have a binary available and i was too lazy to make one ;) dunno if these would be small enough to include :( maybe smaller binaries (less features or something) could be made?

if this idea is totally wack then i'll stop looking.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2002 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, irssi is also mostly as small as your suggestion. It's 873kb on my machine. However. The question about which client to use is really really very personal. I'd prefer irssi, it's small, fast, handy and easy to use.

p.s.: and, of course, colourfull ;)
pps: you may emerge it directly after perl.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2002 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i have a feeling this will be viewed as "un-needed". Simply because you can easily ssh to another box and use irc from that one. Even nicer is to do what I do and have a screen running on a box all the time (preserving my nick) and i just ssh into that box and get the screen back whenever i want to use it :)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2002 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

perhaps but not everyone has an extra box lying around with irc on it.

when i went searching for irc clients i wasnt looking for something personal. i was looking for something small and simple as that would be what the gentoo team would want.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2002 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could be scripted so they can type "help_i_broke_something_and_need_live_support" (or something a bit more terse :)) and an IRC client would pop up and go to the #gentoo channel, perhaps responding to triggers to dump common files like /etc/fstab or whatever. Fun.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2002 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

trapni wrote:
Well, irssi is also mostly as small as your suggestion. It's 873kb on my machine. However. The question about which client to use is really really very personal. I'd prefer irssi, it's small, fast, handy and easy to use.

p.s.: and, of course, colourfull ;)
pps: you may emerge it directly after perl.

Actually you can do without perl, I believe all you need is ncurses so you could do:
Code:

emerge ncurses
emerge --nodeps irssi

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2002 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

proxy wrote:
well i have a feeling this will be viewed as "un-needed". Simply because you can easily ssh to another box and use irc from that one. Even nicer is to do what I do and have a screen running on a box all the time (preserving my nick) and i just ssh into that box and get the screen back whenever i want to use it :)

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Why not just register your nick, openprojects.net supports this and then all you have to do is while logged in with your regged nick:

Code:

/msg NickServ identify yourpassword

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