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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had an issue with the nvidia driver compile. The way I solved it was to unemerge the old one then compile it as a module in the kernel. After that it sems to be working fine.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLModuleLicense

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If I add a module to a GPL-covered program, do I have to use the GPL as the license for my module?

The GPL says that the whole combined program has to be released under the GPL. So your module has to be available for use under the GPL.

But you can give additional permission for the use of your code. You can, if you wish, release your program under a license which is more lax than the GPL but compatible with the GPL. The license list page gives a partial list of GPL-compatible licenses.


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How can I allow linking of proprietary modules with my GPL-covered library under a controlled interface only?

Add this text to the license notice of each file in the package, at the end of the text that says the file is distributed under the GNU GPL:

Linking FOO statically or dynamically with other modules is making a
combined work based on FOO. Thus, the terms and conditions of the GNU
General Public License cover the whole combination.

As a special exception, the copyright holders of FOO give you
permission to link FOO with independent modules that communicate with
FOO solely through the FOOBAR interface, regardless of the license
terms of these independent modules, and to copy and distribute the
resulting combined work under terms of your choice, provided that
every copy of the combined work is accompanied by a complete copy of
the source code of FOO (the version of FOO used to produce the
combined work), being distributed under the terms of the GNU General
Public License plus this exception. An independent module is a module
which is not derived from or based on FOO.

Note that people who make modified versions of FOO are not obligated
to grant this special exception for their modified versions; it is
their choice whether to do so. The GNU General Public License gives
permission to release a modified version without this exception; this
exception also makes it possible to release a modified version which
carries forward this exception.


You should probably study the GPL before you include nvidia and ati drivers built as modules within you kernel. I would suggest you modify your license or remove the proprietary modules.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep , sorry to disagree with you on this Tiger but I have just verified.

I have two versions of gcc here.

[1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.4
[2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.3-20050110 *

and I tried two versions of nvidia:

* media-video/nvidia-kernel :
[ ] 1.0.6111-r3 (0)
[ I] 1.0.6629-r1 (0)

Both would compile with either compiler against previous nitro kernel sources but not with this one

Code:
bash-3.00#whatlin
total 68
 25169 drwxr-xr-x   6 root root   304 Mar  7 23:06 .
  3176 drwxr-xr-x  15 root root   496 Mar  5 13:57 ..
  1936 -rw-r--r--   1 root root 32029 Mar  7 18:55 .config
 25170 -rw-r--r--   1 root root     0 Feb 24 22:42 .keep
 97725 -rw-r--r--   1 root root 32132 Feb 26 18:20 config
   665 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root    18 Mar  7 23:06 linux -> linux-2.6.9-nitro1
 32053 drwxr-xr-x  20 root root  1328 Mar  7 18:52 linux-2.6.10-nitro4
150922 drwxr-xr-x  20 root root  1296 Mar  7 19:26 linux-2.6.11-nitro0
103135 drwxr-xr-x  19 root root  1280 Feb 27 00:56 linux-2.6.9-nitro1


Looks like I'll have go with IT next time I want my Geforce4

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@gentoo_lan: I would advise you read the thread's rules about license flaming before you post.

As per my earlier post, I was wondering if anyone could confirm whether America's Army is/isn't working under nitro0e?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pifactorial wrote:
@gentoo_lan: I would advise you read the thread's rules about license flaming before you post.

As per my earlier post, I was wondering if anyone could confirm whether America's Army is/isn't working under nitro0e?


I would advise you to not use illegal software.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gentoo_lan wrote:
I would advise you to not use illegal software.

You call it illegal software, but you continue to host the ebuild on your webpage. :roll:
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pifactorial wrote:
gentoo_lan wrote:
I would advise you to not use illegal software.

You call it illegal software, but you continue to host the ebuild on your webpage. :roll:


It isn't hosted on my webpage anymore...took care of that discrepancy. Thanks for the info.:D

EDIT: I used to support their kernel before the latest changes.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pifactorial wrote:
gentoo_lan wrote:
I would advise you to not use illegal software.

You call it illegal software, but you continue to host the ebuild on your webpage. :roll:
Not anymore. I get a 404 error. :D
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have these errors after applying the two non e amd64 patched successfully.

Code:
CC      net/compat.o
  CC      net/sysctl_net.o
  LD      net/built-in.o
  CC      lib/dyn_pageflags.o
lib/dyn_pageflags.c: In function `clear_dyn_pageflags':
lib/dyn_pageflags.c:32: error: `max_mapnr' undeclared (first use in this function)
lib/dyn_pageflags.c:32: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
lib/dyn_pageflags.c:32: error: for each function it appears in.)
lib/dyn_pageflags.c: In function `allocate_dyn_pageflags':
lib/dyn_pageflags.c:47: error: `max_mapnr' undeclared (first use in this function)
lib/dyn_pageflags.c: In function `free_dyn_pageflags':
lib/dyn_pageflags.c:72: error: `max_mapnr' undeclared (first use in this function)
make[1]: *** [lib/dyn_pageflags.o] Error 1
make: *** [lib] Error 2
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i have disables power management options in kernel. so now what can be the problem?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darckness wrote:

xororand: I'm aware of this, just as I have been for all -r0 releases. Since we aren't technically in portage anyway though, the point of -r0 is to tell people that this is a preliminary release. I only consider releases after -r1 to be "good".

I think that this is the wrong way of looking at it. Make it a beta or something. Because -r0 is not the way of doing it. Revision 0 is kind of redundant don't you think?

For example, you could make this one nitro-sources-2.6.11_beta1.
If you don't see it as stable, don't mark it with any -r because -r's are supposed to mean _more_ stable than the last.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legoguy: Good thought. I'll do that in the future.

Lawyers: I'm currently talking to the fsf to get a clear answer on this and SHUT ALL YOU PEOPLE UP. Ahem. It seems like people are somewhat determined to shut nitro-sources down by finding licensing issues. Seems rather stupid, especially considering we're just trying to simplify things. Not that I don't think compliance with licenses is all-important. It's just that I'd prefer for people to wait until I've done something that is blatantly offensive without knowing it before they notify me that I'm providing "illegal software".

If you must know, I have also contacted both nvidia and ati about this just so that I won't have anyone else from the forums trying to serve me a subpoena in the future.

EDIT:
rush_ad: Are you on stable or experimental with this error? I don't see this in my version (stable). Have you tried the other version?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dark said

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Lawyers: I'm currently talking to the fsf to get a clear answer on this and SHUT ALL YOU PEOPLE UP. Ahem. It seems like people are somewhat determined to shut nitro-sources down by finding licensing issues. Seems rather stupid, especially considering we're just trying to simplify things. Not that I don't think compliance with licenses is all-important. It's just that I'd prefer for people to wait until I've done something that is blatantly offensive without knowing it before they notify me that I'm providing "illegal software".

If you must know, I have also contacted both nvidia and ati about this just so that I won't have anyone else from the forums trying to serve me a subpoena in the future.


damn, i agree. this is really stupid to question nitro's existance. you guys are spending your time on community by providing us with latest stuff. keep up the good work.

now, can someone please fix my problem?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darckness wrote:
It seems like people are somewhat determined to shut nitro-sources down by finding licensing issues.

It's not just license freaks, either! If you read "Nitro or Love?", you'll find that numerous Gentoo devs/mods/demigods fall into the nitro-hater category (though I can imagine they have their share of n00b's asking for help with their tricked-out patchsets). Nonetheless, what right does that give them to slander us so? Life's unfair. :?

And well were at it, I want my problem fixed too! :lol:
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get those errors at all, PM compiled in or not.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, i do. so how do i fix it?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey ppl. , im not @ home until thursday, so darckness has to do the support.

@rush_ad: while noone else gets the trouble you have with nitro ( i hope ! ),
try reemerging linux-headers.

_cheers_,


@linence-philes (ie. gentoo_lan) and flamers (ie. gentoo_lan)

hey, i looooove ppl who just drop into a thread to flame it's authors or make them look bad.
and now get out!
what a shame gentoo forums don't have an ignore-function....

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger683 wrote:
hey, i looooove ppl who just drop into a thread to flame it's authors or make them look bad.
and now get out!

Some people will always point one's finger at you if you make a mistake - if they're that clever to see what's wrong, why don't they simply say what's wrong and simply suggest a solution?!? This is not a kindergarten, we are a community!

@pifactorial: AA is running here without problems, using agpgart.

Reiser4 & Nitro works good, no speed problems so far. Very nice kernel, go on!

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So .. any progress on the NVIDIA issue ?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just resolved my cdrecord issues by booting to 2.6.9-nitro1

What changes do I need to make for this to work under 2.6.10* or 2.6.11* nitro ?

TIA 8)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

which linux header should i emerge? i am running 2.6.11 and below are availble headers

Code:
bash-2.05b# ls /usr/portage/sys-kernel/linux-headers
ChangeLog                       linux-headers-2.4.23.ebuild
Manifest                        linux-headers-2.4.23_p3.ebuild
files                           linux-headers-2.4.25.ebuild
linux-headers-2.0.40.ebuild     linux-headers-2.4.26.ebuild
linux-headers-2.2.26.ebuild     linux-headers-2.6.10.ebuild
linux-headers-2.4.21-r1.ebuild  linux-headers-2.6.8.1-r2.ebuild
linux-headers-2.4.21.ebuild     linux-headers-2.6.8.1-r4.ebuild
linux-headers-2.4.22-r1.ebuild  metadata.xml
linux-headers-2.4.22.ebuild
bash-2.05b#   
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

always the latest 2.6.x, at the moment the latest, not-masked one is sys-kernel/linux26-headers-2.6.8.1-r2
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

emerged latest headers. reemerged nitro, applied patches. still the same problem.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a very weird behaviour with this new nitro. It takes forever to boot (boot process slows down somewhat gradually, and stops for 2-3 minutes, then resumes). It usually happens when coldplugging devices, but not necessarily... Once it boots the kernel is somewhat slower than 2.6.10-r4, but completely usable. What could be the problem?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got the built in nvidia module to work when using the stripped down CFLAGS that were suggested, it built fine before but segfaulted on modprobe.

Also, thanks to a new patch even the nvsound driver finally works! Although you have to disable the spdif option on 2.6.11 kernels (and Imean DISABLE, ie comment out the option and don't just set it to 0.)

Overall, it looks pretty good so far.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, I've decided that while the nvidia/ati drivers were cool (AND WORKED ON MY BOX), it would be stupid to leave that patch in for future versions due to the problems some people are having using them, and also due to the lawyers. The next nitro is going to be slimmed down, with several features "missing" (not coming back). And after this, there will be no more innovations. Nitro-sources will return to the "here's the next release, nothing special" that everyone likes, and (hopefully) people will stop hating me for trying to improve upon it.

New "stable" pending.
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