ANN: split kde ebuilds

tlaloctlaloc · Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:14 pm Post subject:

Havn't the security problems be fixed with new releases of the kde-3.3.1 ebuilds?

Shan · Guru Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 556 Location: /dev/null

mario · Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:18 pm Post subject: Dependent ebuilds

The advantages to split ebuilds are obvious, however they are offset by the fact that some ebuilds like amarok and k3b depend on the -meta packages, not on the particular parts of them they need. Does anybody know if this would be remedied or this would basically be the policy for the kde-dependent packages? If that is how it's going to be, the granularity will not be made use of since many people use software like amarok and k3b.

Thanks

AlterEgo · Veteran Joined: 25 Apr 2002 Posts: 1619

danarmak · Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: Dependent ebuilds

corey_s · Apprentice Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 264

[EDIT] I fixed this by emerging akregator first, and then emerging kmail.

Has anyone come across this error?

scanner ~ # ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -u kmail
Calculating dependencies ...done!
>>> emerge (1 of 7) kde-base/akregator-3.4.0_beta1-r1 to /
>>> md5 src_uri ;-)

kdepim-3.3.91.tar.bz2
>>> Unpacking source...
>>> Extracting from tarball...
tar: kdepim-3.3.91/configure.in.bot: Not found in archive
tar: kdepim-3.3.91/AUTHORS: Not found in archive
tar: kdepim-3.3.91/COPYING: Not found in archive
tar: kdepim-3.3.91/INSTALL: Not found in archive
tar: kdepim-3.3.91/NEWS: Not found in archive
tar: kdepim-3.3.91/ChangeLog: Not found in archive
tar: kdepim-3.3.91/doc/akregator: Not found in archive
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
Symlinking library libkdepim under /usr/kde/3.4/lib/ in source dir

!!! ERROR: kde-base/akregator-3.4.0_beta1-r1 failed.
!!! Function kde-meta_src_unpack, Line 321, Exitcode 1
!!! Can't find library libkpinterfaces under /usr/kde/3.4/lib/

madmango · Guru Joined: 15 Jul 2003 Posts: 507 Location: PA, USA

Hay guys. I want to only have kcontrol installed, because I wasnt to change the Look and Feel of my QT/KDE apps that i run under fluxbox.

So how to i go about doing that? when I emerge kcontrol, i get a nice dialog box with no modules in it.
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Carlo · Developer Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3356

danarmak · Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: libkpinterfaces?

corey_s · Apprentice Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 264

danarmak · Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:33 pm Post subject:

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corey_s · Apprentice Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 264

ranmakun · Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 1:56 am Post subject:

I really liked this announcement, looks very good. But I see some problems I can imagine:

1. The first one would be that I really won't be very sure what should I install to get that feature I used before. I really didn't try so I'm not sure about this, but I can imagine I will have this kind of problem and many questions in the forums asking what should they install for a certain feature of KDE.

2. As with the example of the granularity of kate, that someone pointed out, I don't like it very much since a lot of the features of the program are separate ebuilds. The problem is that I can imagine a new feature of in kate in a new realase of kde, but I didn't notice because is in another ebuild I didn't install.

3. My world file would grow a lot!!!

4. I will grow old until I finish selecting every package I like out of 300.

In conclusion, I think granularity is a great feature but not that much.

At last one question: Now that we have these split ebuilds, will we have split ebuilds for languages again???, I never understood why the change to the LINGUAS env var, on upgrades you have to remember to set that var or else you end up without languages at all...

Shan · Guru Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 556 Location: /dev/null

Carlo · Developer Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3356

ranmakun · Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 1:07 pm Post subject:

ranmakun · Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 1:17 pm Post subject:

tlaloctlaloc · Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject:

I have some problem now trying kde-3.4 and using kde-3.3 regularly. Programs like koffice and kdevelop now compile against kde-3.4. How can I change this back?
Thanks, Valentin.

Carlo · Developer Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3356

firephoto · Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 3:52 pm Post subject:

I've redone my kdepim now with the spit builds and it wasn't as hard as I thought. I was originally thinking it would be difficult to figure out what I was using before that I wanted but then it dawned on me that I could just do an "emerge kdepim-meta -vpD" and I would see what all the kdepim packages were. From that list I just picked out the main components I knew I used and wanted and then "emerge {the list} -vaD" and saw what deps were brought in and let it start. Afterwards I did the emerge kde-meta again just to see what wasn't installed incase anything was missed. This can be done with any of the main packages and it works out pretty good actually since there are some odd named packages that you wouldn't know were from kdepim or whatever package you're working with.

There's some dep issues with some of the kdepim packages, I had to change my order around until the libkdepim package and some others showed up first on the list. If I just emerged kontact, kde-base/akregator was first on the list and it would fail but if I emerged kde-base/akregator by itself then the order was ok.

I had been emerging the packages with FEATURES="nostrip" and USE="debug" but the only thing that's ever crashed and gave debugging feedback is kopete and that's when I log out so I don't have enough time to look at or copy the output.

I don't think my cflags allow for any useful output anyway but maybe that's what the nostrip does. It made my kdepim package It saved as a really big file too when I quickpkg'd it, something like 70mb.

The only big issues I'm seeing with 3.4 so far is some mysterious options that seem to get enabled or maybe just aren't working sometimes. At times I get tip of the day windows for all apps but other times I don't see them. Also there were some issues with akregator settings from within kontact until I opened akregator by itself and changed the settings. Some passwords aren't getting saved to the kdewallet from konqueror even though it's asking me about them. The storage media applet and the desktop media showing seem incomplete with a lack of being able to display an unmounted optical drive or anything else besides the floppy but the media kioslave works great.

MasterX · Veteran Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 1165

I am just wandering, will the splitting of ebuilds speed up the process of realeasing stable ebuilds?
It took about two to three weeks to mark the ebuilds for KDE 3.3.2 stable. How long will it take for KDE 3.4?
On the other hand, since there are so many ebuilds we can install the stable ones and wait for those who are marked unstable to become stable.
So, I think that I asked a rhetorical question...

Shan · Guru Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 556 Location: /dev/null

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