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| freeix wrote: | You are so funny... dude, I've admined windows boxes with uptimes of over 100 days, there's really nothing strange about it if they're behind a firewall and not using IE.
PS lose the multiple smilies, you don't realize how infantile they look. |
But it is easier with Linux. I'm not even trying to keep mine up. I used to work on puters back when windoze 3.1 came out. I changed careers. M$ went way downhill. They don't even have the next hill in sight. I can see Linux though.
The smiles stay. I'm young at heart at least. If you use Mozilla, put pointer on smiley, right click, then click adblock image. Then you won't have to see mine or anybody elses smiley. Oh, for the record, I'm 37. Way past infancy.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:28 am Post subject: Re: Hot Babe and Gentoo? (Possibly Offensive Packages?) |
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| ciaranm wrote: | | chris4amd wrote: | | [Developers] Are there some kind of formal / informal package / ebuild content guidelines for gentoo? |
No. The ebuilds themselves shouldn't contain any excessively offensive material, and packages included in GRP or stages shouldn't have any legally questionable content, but general packages aren't covered. After all, we don't ship programs, we just give you a set of rules for how to build them.
I'd like to point out that you're required to install at least two packages containing the word "fuck", at least one package containing quotes from the Bible (which as we all know is racist, homophobic, misogynistic and illegal in several countries) and a copy of the US constitution as part of a base Gentoo install. |
Thank you verity much Ciaran for responding helpfully to the topic and avoiding the thread hijacking above.  It is greatly appreciated.
So the above statement by you is the general or official POV for divining which packages can be made into ebuilds?
Not to be a pest, that is a good answer, but the reason that I started this topic is because I see Gentoo growing in popularity the same way Debian has over the years. I don't think Gentoo is a "fad" distro. like so many other distros and down the line I think that we are going to face (or have faced) many of the issues that Debian has, this being one of them.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:37 am Post subject: Re: Hot Babe and Gentoo? (Possibly Offensive Packages?) |
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| chris4amd wrote: | | So the above statement by you is the general or official POV for divining which packages can be made into ebuilds? |
There is no real official POV as such. There're guidelines on when to use fetch restriction and on what we can legally stick in stages and on livecds, but that's about it. There's nothing saying "don't stick any potentially offensive packages in the tree", and use of the offensive USE flag isnt' official policy (nor would a USE flag be appropriate for a package whose entire content was offensive).
Really, it's down to the individual developer. Personally I won't add, keyword or otherwise touch any package which does not come with full source or which stops us from applying patches to it. On the other hand, if I actually used Hot Babe (and was convinced that it had an active upstream, and a sane licence, and and a non-broken build system and so on), I'd have no qualms about adding an ebuild to the tree. |
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Syntaxis
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 7:50 am Post subject: Re: Hot Babe and Gentoo? (Possibly Offensive Packages?) |
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| freeix wrote: | | Whether thay be flesh-and-blood or an artist's rendition, no one would ever suggest such a package be in an official CD set |
I'm afraid you're wrong - whatever's in Testing goes on the CD sets, the precise order being determined by the Popularity Contest results. The contents are not hand-picked.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| freeix wrote: | You are so funny... dude, I've admined windows boxes with uptimes of over 100 days, there's really nothing strange about it if they're behind a firewall and not using IE.
PS lose the multiple smilies, you don't realize how infantile they look. |
Very true but irrelevant at the same time. I have windows servers running for months. Usually only have to reboot for patches (which is often enough anyway) but so what? Those boxes have hardware redundancy, run a minimal amount of services and usually perform a single or very few tasks. they're behind firewalls or have no access to the internet. How is this relevant to a workstation at home? Have you ever been able to keep your machine at hom running smoothly for such a long time after playing games, editing photos, watching movies, listening to music, browsing the web and generally just using it for what you bought it for?
I think not. |
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The girl is going to get a cold  she is always half naked... only the program itself suck around a 35% of cpu so she is always wearing underwear.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:21 am Post subject: Re: Hot Babe and Gentoo? (Possibly Offensive Packages?) |
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dude> emerge hot-babe
portage> are you of age?
dude> no
portage> sorry, you are not allowed to watch <beep> comics and to sput your <beep> on your keyboard
dude> ew, but...
portage> shut up and hide your <beep>. mom is coming home
dude> ...,mmhh, mom!?
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| freeix wrote: | Since this talk of hot babes has laughably degenerated into a discussion of uptime... allow me to present you with updike!
| Code: | | alias updike='/usr/bin/uptime | perl -ne "/(\d+) d/;print 8,q(=)x\$1,\"D\n\""' |
This takes your uptime and for each day adds length to your...um... |
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$> updike
8===============================================================================
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| ebrostig wrote: | | freeix wrote: | Since this talk of hot babes has laughably degenerated into a discussion of uptime... allow me to present you with updike!
| Code: | | alias updike='/usr/bin/uptime | perl -ne "/(\d+) d/;print 8,q(=)x\$1,\"D\n\""' |
This takes your uptime and for each day adds length to your...um... |
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$> updike
8===============================================================================
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oktane@thoroughbred ~ $ updike
8=D
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| Quote: | | alias updike='/usr/bin/uptime | perl -ne "/(\d+) d/;print 8,q(=)x\$1,\"D\n\""' |
LOL, brilliant.
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yngwin
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I have never understood why nudity is considered offensive and violence isn't (shoot'em'up games for example). I'd rather have my kid learning life-affirming values.
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Gherald
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Easy: nudity undermines Christianity more than violence does.
Think about it: there is a hell of a lot of violence in the Bible, but not much in the way of sexually explicit stuff. |
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| freeix wrote: | | Easy: nudity undermines Christianity more than violence does. |
I don't see what that would be so. Murder is a sin. Being naked is not.
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| yngwin wrote: | | I have never understood why nudity is considered offensive and violence isn't (shoot'em'up games for example). I'd rather have my kid learning life-affirming values. |
| yngwin wrote: | | I don't see what that would be so. Murder is a sin. |
Perhaps part of your confusion is not understanding that murder is a small subset of violence.
| yngwin wrote: | | Being naked is not [a sin]. |
Well I of course have no problem with it, but here is a Christian view I turned up with a google search:
Some would argue that looking at the naked human body is not evil, because God made it beautiful, and Adam and Eve were naked in the garden. However, that was before sin entered the picture.
"The eye is the window of the soul," as the saying goes. What we look at does affect us spiritually - and can cause us to sin. David "SAW" the woman naked, before he got ideas to sin with her. Jesus said that if a man "looks at a woman to lust after her, he has committed adultery with her already in his heart"; etc. The sin takes place even before the action is executed.
Scripture gives many examples of men being enticed by the sight of a woman. Shechem saw the woman before he raped her. David saw the woman bathing before he had sex with her. Judah saw the harlot before he had sex with her. It was the same for Samson, etc.
Genesis 34:2 "And when Shechem the son of Hamor the Hivite, the prince of the land, SAW HER, he took her and lay with her by force."
2 Samuel 11:2-5 "Now when evening came David arose from his bed and walked around on the roof of the king's house, and from the roof he SAW A WOMAN BATHING; and the woman was very beautiful in appearance. So David sent and inquired about the woman. And one said, 'Is this not ... the wife of Uriah the Hittite?' And David sent messengers and took her, and when she came to him, he lay with her... And the woman conceived; and she sent and told David, and said, 'I am pregnant.'"
Matthew 5:28 "but I say to you, that everyone who LOOKS on a woman to LUST for her has committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Genesis 38:2-3 "And Judah SAW there a daughter of a certain Canaanite whose name was Shua; and he took her and went in to her. So she conceived and bore a son and he named him Er...."
Genesis 38:15-16 "When Judah SAW HER, he thought she was a harlot.... So he turned aside to her by the road, and said, 'Here now, let me come in to you'; ...And she said, 'What will you give me, that you may come in to me?'"
Judges 16:1 "Now Samson went to Gaza and SAW a harlot there, and went in to her."
Judges 14:2-3 "So he came back and told his father and mother, 'I SAW a woman in Timnah, one of the daughters of the Philistines; now therefore, get her for me as a wife.' Then his father and his mother said to him, 'Is there no woman among the daughters of your relatives, or among all our people, that you go to take a wife from the uncircumcised Philistines?' But Samson said to his father, 'Get her for me, for SHE LOOKS GOOD TO ME.'"
Visual stimulation is more common in man than in woman, however. There's just one example in Scripture of a woman lusting after a man by SEEING him:
Genesis 39:7-12 "And it came about after these events that his master's wife looked with desire at Joseph, and she said, 'Lie with me.' But he refused and said to his master's wife, 'Behold, with me here, my master does not concern himself with anything in the house, and he has put all that he owns in my charge. There is no one greater in this house than I, and he has withheld nothing from me except you, because you are his wife. How then could I do this great evil, and sin against God?' And it came about as she spoke to Joseph day after day, that he did not listen to her to lie beside her, or be with her. Now it happened one day that he went into the house to do his work, and none of the men of the household was there inside. And she caught him by his garment, saying, 'Lie with me!' And he left his garment in her hand and fled, and went outside." |
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| freeix wrote: | | yngwin wrote: | | I have never understood why nudity is considered offensive and violence isn't (shoot'em'up games for example). I'd rather have my kid learning life-affirming values. |
| yngwin wrote: | | I don't see what that would be so. Murder is a sin. |
Perhaps part of your confusion is not understanding that murder is a small subset of violence. |
Okay, you're right, moving from violence to murder is troubling the issue. I should have stated murder in the first case (as examplified by the example I gave of shoot'em'ups). So let me rephrase, just to let things be clear:
I have never understood why nudity is considered offensive and murder isn't.
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| yngwin wrote: | | I have never understood why nudity is considered offensive and murder isn't. |
And I've never understood why the Earth is flat. 
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| Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, well Christianity clearly regards fornication+adultery and murder as sins.
As a consequence, most Christians are (at least nominally) against things that might encourage these sins, such as pornography and GTA (or at least, kids playing GTA).
But Christians are not necessarily against things that don't directly encourage sinning, such as sex ed videos or watching action movies in which the murderous villains are, generally speaking, clearly identified as being evil. |
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I wish to demonstrate this piece of software
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Image 1, not much cpu
image 2, was calculating deps
imgae 3, full compile
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I'm waiting for hot-guy.
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| Quote: | | I'm waiting for hot-guy. |
LMAO
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