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renihs
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 12:34 pm    Post subject: gentoo livedvd, packages, feedback, torrent .iso Reply with quote

*UPDATE* 0.19.5 --> posting is on page 3 :)

hi folks!
since some time now i have been working on a gentoo based livedvd originally aimed for scientific users. however i started including everything that makes sense (or doesnt), like multimedia-apps/dvd/cd-r/video-editing/sound/forensics/games/ whatsoever.

i am trying to make this dvd as "complete" as possible in terms of packages...
which apps would you say are a "must have?", in essence, apps you wouldnt want to miss anywhere?

http://www.doebling.sth.ac.at/livedvd/installed.packages
(please note, this file does not contain the installed packages on 0.17.1 but on my current build..., i ll put the 0.17.1 online again soon)

some boring screenshots (livedvd booted on my ibm t42 ati mobile 7500 / dual athlon 1.2 geforce fx5700)...
http://www.doebling.sth.ac.at/livedvd/screens.html

torrent links:

http://www.bcc.univie.ac.at/embnet/LiveDVD/

if you wish to use the molecular (wEMBOSS, taverna, seqvista & other) packages download the EMBnet version since the gentoo one is a bit broken. except that the only main difference is a different default background image :)

thanks alot! :)

*update*:
Kernel: 2.6.9-r1 (udev)
X-Server: xorg 6.7.0-r3
Window Manager: Gnome 2.8 / Fluxbox / Openbox / Rox
RAM: 128MB >= required
dvd iso Size: 2.4GB
Filesystem Size: ~7GB
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

opera
centericq
tetex
vim
latexsuite
wmi
openbox
acroread/xpdf
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gnuplot
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ooffice
vimspell
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maxima

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx already for your input, most packages are included already
adding centericq, ruby, rgbplot, opera, wmi now

i *really* would like to add maxima but it gives me compile errors and i dont dare to use latest ~x86 package since that requires a ~x86 masked gnuplot package....which i am afraid would break things? (sci-lab, other stuff relying on gnuplot?)

also vlc gives me some compile errors, still tracking that issue :(

if anyone has experience with compiling maxima i would like to hear about it :)

thx already
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the masked version do you mean 4.0? I don't think it will break anything, but haven't tested it much. I can't remember compiling errors with maxima....

With vlc I remember I had to add the useflags mentioned on the vlc site (and use the 0.8 version). Vlc is a pain in the ass to compile and if can crash quite hard if you try anything like changing the skin.. In my opinion it has the best playlist editor by far though and the dvd playback seems better than xine.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes gnuplot 4.0-r1 something

if i try to emerge the non ~x86 maxima package i get the following error (googled already a bit and found a couple ppl with same prob and without solution).
maybe you can make something out of this error :)

;; Loaded file /var/tmp/portage/maxima-5.9.0/work/maxima-5.9.0/lisp-utils/defsystem.lisp
;; Loading file /var/tmp/portage/maxima-5.9.0/work/maxima-5.9.0/src/maxima.system ...
; - Compiling defsystem "maxima"
; - Loading module "package"
; - Loading source file "maxima-package.lisp"
*** - REGEXP:REGEXP-COMPILE: keyword arguments in (T) should occur pairwise
0 errors, 0 warnings
make[1]: *** [binary-clisp/maxima.mem] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/maxima-5.9.0/work/maxima-5.9.0/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

!!! ERROR: sci-mathematics/maxima-5.9.0 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 20, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does this help???

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=229832&highlight=maxima
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes i was reading the same thread :)
that one sounds good, i ll test it as soon my squashfs run is complete :)

oh an vlc and vdr are emerged now too :)


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

updated gnuplot and emerged maxima, dunno about the flags (-auctex +clisp -cmucl +emacs -gcl -sbcl +tetex)
worked fine :)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

openbox :twisted:
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

openbox added :)

(i thought i already had :) )
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not add some games? Like frozen bubble for example.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

frozen bubble seems to be quite popular :). i was advised that one on #gentoo irc too :)
xbubble was emerged (mistook that one for frozen-bubble, didnt find it first), frozen-bubble is beeing compiled now.

yes i am moving towards the game section, enemy-territory will be included too ofc. however gl-acceleration only works for ati cards at the moment, need to adapt same gl-lib locations to make opengl-update work on the dvd.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While you are at it, emerge nethack too :)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

done :)
and i added noegnud-nethack too


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

games-arcade/supertux ;)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

also in the compile schedule :)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i took some boring screenshots of the livedvd (booted from my thinkpad t42).

http://www.doebling.sth.ac.at/livedvd/screens.html

the background normally is less cute, this one is from

http://dugnet.com/klown/wallpaper/
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mythtv
xfce4 4.1.99.3
azureus
amule
liferea
gnome-terminal (this will require about 3/4 of all gnome packages, lol)
konqueror (kdelibs and kdebase)
Enemy Territory with the older maps (that's about 500 MB of maps and 200 MB of game we're talking about)
Planeshift (although the cvs client changes periodically, making old versions unuseble)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm check the installed.packages file ;), alot of the suggested stuff is already included hehe

anyhow, adding missing packages now :)

mythtv doesnt emerge though, Tk-TableMatrix doesnt compile (still tracking that...)

xfce: i really would like to include that but i never touched it (gnome/fluxbox/rox), and i dont want to use a completely unconfigured desktop environment.

enemy territory will be included soon ofc, but i doubt that 500mb of maps are needed ;)
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

renihs wrote:
mythtv doesnt emerge though, Tk-TableMatrix doesnt compile (still tracking that...)

Too bad

Quote:
xfce: i really would like to include that but i never touched it (gnome/fluxbox/rox), and i dont want to use a completely unconfigured desktop environment.

That's fine, xfce is already great out of the box

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enemy territory will be included soon ofc, but i doubt that 500mb of maps are needed ;)

You ever played ET? You know how fucking annoying it is to download a map @ 10 kBps through the game? I think it's really way better to just package them with the dvd.
If you're having troubles finding the maps, pm me, I have them you know, we could figure something out :)
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most things I want are already there, but I would use openoffice-ximian instead of openoffice and beep-media-player instead of xmms.
Also add kobodeluxe, a nice space shooter and zsnes, a snes emulator

How does hardware detection work ? Are those the same as of knoppix (I noticed there were some knoppix packages in there)
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the look of the openoffice-ximian (gtk), but I found that a number of things don't work properly, namely printing. I have found the original package better/ more stable.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

enemy territory: hehe yes i do play et, also have a small server. however i dont see the need for 500mb! of maps, the default + some must have should do the trick. however, should enough room remain (currently 8.3GB used) it could be considered.

ximian-office: yes i wanted to include that one however i got some emerge errors, that is still tracked.

hardware detection: i use autoconfigure from livecd tools and knoppix hwsetup/mkxf86config and still am working on a couple of scripts to fix the created xorg conf to work with nvidia/etc. still not finished. also i need to move the gllibs to new locations to get opengl-update to work from dvd. at the moment it does a good job and it boots without problems on a lot of systems however i did encountered already some systems which wont boot (hanging at autconfiguring devices etc).

added zsnes and kobodeluxe :)
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