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| Would you like to have an Arabic language section in the forums? |
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tumbak
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| gen2fox wrote: | | playfool wrote: | | Of course we should, we have forums for much smaller groups of people - but I'm a little concerned if it's technically possible with phpbb. |
Technically, it's possible, I run an Arabic phpBB forum (down at the moment), official language packs are available from phpbb.com.
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yeah, I've seen many phpBB arabic enabled sites.
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Madeye
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thesmashest
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| Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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I tried to download gentoo with no results
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gen2fox
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| Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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That forum runs vBulletin, a commercial forum package 
If you want to see an Arabic forum running phpBB, check out phpBB Arabia for example.
By the way, the official language package available at phpbb.com is rather old, and has some spelling and grammar mistakes, it would be great if you let us fix them in case you want to install the language pack  |
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ian!
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| Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| gen2fox wrote: | | By the way, the official language package available at phpbb.com is rather old, and has some spelling and grammar mistakes, it would be great if you let us fix them in case you want to install the language pack |
Please send these fixes upstream to the phpBB-guys so that these corrections are available to other forums as well. Thanks!
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gen2fox
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| Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| ian! wrote: | | Please send these fixes upstream to the phpBB-guys so that these corrections are available to other forums as well. Thanks! |
Sure, I'll review the file and submit it to phpBB soon. |
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cokehabit
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:18 am Post subject: |
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| theres chinese, finnish and greek. Arabic shouldn't be a problem |
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cokehabit
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:23 am Post subject: |
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| gen2fox wrote: | That forum runs vBulletin, a commercial forum package
If you want to see an Arabic forum running phpBB, check out phpBB Arabia for example. |
the writing on the vbulletin looks nicer... not that i can understand one word/letter/symbol of what it says 
Also, who is Amr Khaled? |
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thesmashest
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:13 am Post subject: |
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I tried to download gentoo with no results
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tumbak
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Location: supposedly Palestine
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:20 am Post subject: |
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| ian! wrote: | | gen2fox wrote: | | By the way, the official language package available at phpbb.com is rather old, and has some spelling and grammar mistakes, it would be great if you let us fix them in case you want to install the language pack |
Please send these fixes upstream to the phpBB-guys so that these corrections are available to other forums as well. Thanks! |
should we consider that as a good sign? 
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ian!
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:48 am Post subject: |
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| tumbak wrote: | | should we consider that as a good sign? |
26 votes for yes so far. --- Yes.
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tumbak
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| ian! wrote: | | tumbak wrote: | | should we consider that as a good sign? |
26 votes for yes so far. --- Yes. |
YAY! this is really great news! I'm sure everyone will be thrilled!
when this first step is made we can then focus on the translations
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Naib
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:16 am Post subject: |
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Just out of interest with Arabic.
The one thing I know abt it is, it is read right-to-left,
With Mandarine it is written/read down-to-up and is easily translated to left-to-right.
How does Arabic fair up to this?
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mohshami
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| Arabic is written from right to left and from up to down, just like English flipped over the Y axis . |
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hybrid
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| Naib wrote: | Just out of interest with Arabic.
The one thing I know abt it is, it is read right-to-left,
With Mandarine it is written/read down-to-up and is easily translated to left-to-right.
How does Arabic fair up to this? |
As said arabic is written right to left and this cannot be changed like in chinese mandarin, since letters in arabic are connected, and their shaping depends on their position ...
fortunately Unicode help us deal with this, since all arabic and hebrew characters are part from strong RTL characters class, this mean that everything remain the same for softwares, they continue to deal with characters as if they were written LTR, but when rendering them the context is flipped, this enables mixing RTL characters with LTR characters. |
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cokehabit
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:14 am Post subject: |
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i think we should change it to RTL, start here in Gentoo, in 5 years it will all be like that  |
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pjp
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| ian! wrote: | | tumbak wrote: | | should we consider that as a good sign? |
26 votes for yes so far. --- Yes. |
Despite that it appears at least several of those votes ar from non arabic speakers/writers.
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nyteryda
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | ian! wrote: | | tumbak wrote: | | should we consider that as a good sign? |
26 votes for yes so far. --- Yes. |
Despite that it appears at least several of those votes ar from non arabic speakers/writers. |
Well, Being that i want to learn arabic, and belive since i spend so much time here, i could maybe try to mix the learning with the tech stuff, what does that count as ?
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pjp
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A learning experience? An exercise in futility (I'm bad with languages)? A challenge?
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gen2fox
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| Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| nyteryda wrote: | | Well, Being that i want to learn arabic, and belive since i spend so much time here, i could maybe try to mix the learning with the tech stuff, what does that count as ? |
Well, I'm doing this right now with German, I head over the German forum from time to time, I think it's helping, I have yet to post anything there, and I doubt I'll do soon tough. |
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mohshami
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| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| The only way to learn is to use what you are learning in real life, I started with linux a long time ago but since I only read books and never actually did anything using linux I have never been able to learn it. Now that I have stopped using windows for most stuff I have been able to learn more stuff in the past 2 weeks than I have learned since I started. So good work guys. |
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hybrid
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| Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| can we expect a talk about this in the GWN ? |
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lupestro
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| Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | Despite that it appears at least several of those votes ar from non arabic speakers/writers. |
True enough - however, I have selfish reasons.
Over the past year or more I've been struggling to learn Arabic on my own. As a part of this effort, I decided that this year I'd switch my Linux box (running Gentoo, of course) over to present menus, etc. in Arabic. A forum with new information on familiar topics in Arabic would kind of complete this partial attempt at immersion (at least online) for me.
And who knows - I might know the answer to something posted (hey, it happens) and be able to answer by that point in Arabic. I'd like that - talking about Linux programming and administration in the language I'm trying so hard to learn.
In the meantime, I'll drill with KVocTrain while XMMS blares the Gb of music I bought at Maqam.com over the past several months. The more I try to use Arabic with Linux, the more I find I need a place to go to figure out how to pull them together.
Anyway, you know how I'll vote if I can figure out where to do it.
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L1nux
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| Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 6:29 am Post subject: |
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Hi There,
Really it is great to have an arabic forum,
i speak arabic and my gentoo writes arabic, and i am thinking to translate those documents on gentoo.org into arabic, and i can help building the arabic forums,
Really it is nice |
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Akhouk
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| Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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This is cool Loads of reponses. I will message some of my other Arab Gentoo user friends and get them to vote too.
Nice one tumbak
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