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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:34 pm    Post subject: MiniHowTo for Orinoco cards w/ firmware 8.72 Reply with quote

This is a "little" overview over different "Orinoco" drivers which work with the 2.6.x kernel.


First of all:
Some Information:

ALL TEST ARE DONE WITH FIRMWARE 8.72.
I THINK WITH ANOTHER FIRMWARE SOME DRIVERS WORK WHICH DON'T WORK FOR ME

After every driver installation I did an
Code:
rm -rf /lib/modules/`uname -r`/


System:
Code:
uname -a
Linux firebird 2.6.9 #16 Tue Dec 7 15:03:25 CET 2004 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M
processor 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux



I'm testing these 3 drivers:

1) CVS from
http://savannah.nongnu.org/cvs/?group=orinoco

2) Portage drivers

3) plasmahh drivers
http://www.tzi.de/~plasmahh/orinoco.html


I'm not testing the Kernel drivers cos the are old and bad (IMHO).



1st)

Code:
firebird cvs # cvs -z3 -d:ext:anoncvs@savannah.nongnu.org:/cvsroot/orinoco co orinoco
cvs checkout: Updating orinoco
{...}
firebird cvs # cd orinoco
firebird orinoco # make install
{...}
firebird orinoco # ls -lart /lib/modules/2.6.9/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/
total 168
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root   120 Dec  9 19:49 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 12708 Dec  9 19:49 spectrum_cs.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  5555 Dec  9 19:49 orinoco_tmd.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  7485 Dec  9 19:49 orinoco_plx.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  8003 Dec  9 19:49 orinoco_pci.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  6193 Dec  9 19:49 orinoco_nortel.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  9027 Dec  9 19:49 orinoco_cs.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 54203 Dec  9 19:49 orinoco.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  9470 Dec  9 19:49 hermes.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 11627 Dec  9 19:49 prism_usb.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 27109 Dec  9 19:49 orinoco_usb.ko
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   376 Dec  9 19:49 .
firebird orinoco #


Inserting the Orinoco card:

Code:
firebird orinoco # dmesg
orinoco 0.15rc2HEAD (David Gibson <hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au>, Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>, et al)
orinoco_cs 0.15rc2HEAD (David Gibson <hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au>, Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>, et al)
eth1: Hardware identity 0001:0004:0005:0000
eth1: Station identity  001f:0001:0008:0048
eth1: Firmware determined as Lucent/Agere 8.72
eth1: Ad-hoc demo mode supported
eth1: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported
eth1: WEP supported, 104-bit key
eth1: MAC address 00:02:2D:C3:DB:96
eth1: Station name "HERMES I"
eth1: ready
eth1: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 10, io 0x0100-0x013f
firebird orinoco #


The card should now visible in iwconfig

Code:
firebird orinoco # iwconfig eth1
eth1      IEEE 802.11b  ESSID:""  Nickname:"HERMES I"
          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.422 GHz  Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00   
          Bit Rate:11 Mb/s   Sensitivity:1/3 
          Retry limit:4   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
          Encryption key:off
          Power Management:off
          Link Quality=0/92  Signal level=134/153  Noise level=134/153
          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0


Now I'm trying to activate the "monitor" mode, with 2 diffrent methods.

The old one:
Code:

firebird orinoco # iwpriv eth1 monitor 2 11
Invalid command : monitor
firebird orinoco #


That doen't work.
And what's with the new method?

Code:
firebird orinoco # iwconfig eth1 mode monitor
Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
    SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported.
firebird orinoco #


That command sends also an message to syslog.

Code:
firebird orinoco # dmesg |tail -n 1
eth1: Monitor mode support is buggy in this firmware, not enabling
firebird orinoco #



Bus befor we stop our last chance is to see what iwpriv does show:

Code:
firebird orinoco # iwpriv eth1
eth1      Available private ioctl :
          force_reset      (8BE0) : set   0       & get   0     
          card_reset       (8BE1) : set   0       & get   0     
          set_port3        (8BE2) : set   1 int   & get   0     
          get_port3        (8BE3) : set   0       & get   1 int 
          set_preamble     (8BE4) : set   1 int   & get   0     
          get_preamble     (8BE5) : set   0       & get   1 int 
          set_ibssport     (8BE6) : set   1 int   & get   0     
          get_ibssport     (8BE7) : set   0       & get   1 int 
          get_rid          (8BE9) : set   0       & get 1024 byte


Does anybody see "monitor" mode?
So I think this driver is s***, but that's only my opinion.



So where going to the next driver, the portage driver:


2nd)

Code:
firebird portage # echo "net-wireless/orinoco ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
firebird portage # emerge -av orinoco

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N    ] net-wireless/orinoco-0.15_rc2  +pcmcia 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB

Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No]



Some warnings during merging, but finaly successful.

Code:
firebird portage # ls -lart /lib/modules/2.6.9/net/
total 120
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 12850 Dec  9 20:08 spectrum_cs.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  5565 Dec  9 20:08 orinoco_tmd.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  7495 Dec  9 20:08 orinoco_plx.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  7811 Dec  9 20:08 orinoco_pci.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  6203 Dec  9 20:08 orinoco_nortel.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  9037 Dec  9 20:08 orinoco_cs.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 48289 Dec  9 20:08 orinoco.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 10119 Dec  9 20:08 hermes.ko



And again inserting the card to the Laptop


Now only a diff between last dmesg and dmesg with portage drivers:

Code:
-orinoco 0.15rc2HEAD (David Gibson <hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au>, Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>, et al)
-orinoco_cs 0.15rc2HEAD (David Gibson <hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au>, Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>, et al)
+orinoco 0.15rc2STA (David Gibson <hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au>, Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>, et al)
+orinoco_cs 0.15rc2STA (David Gibson <hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au>, Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>, et al)



iwconfig is the same.

But what will the driver tell us, if we activate the monitor mode?

The old one:
Code:
firebird portage # iwpriv eth1 monitor 2 11
Invalid command : monitor
firebird portage #


The new one:
Code:
firebird portage # iwconfig eth1 mode monitor
Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
    SET failed on device eth1 ; Operation not supported.


And dmesg tells us the same error

Code:
firebird portage # dmesg | tail -n 1
eth1: Monitor mode support is buggy in this firmware, not enabling
firebird portage #


And iwpriv eth1 is again the same.
So this driver s*** too (for Firmware 8.72).



Ok, now the last try with the drivers from plasmahh.

3rd)

Get one driver from
Quote:
http://www.tzi.de/~plasmahh/orinoco.html


I select the last one (0.13eSN-5)

Code:
firebird plasmahh # wget http://www.tzi.de/~plasmahh/orinoco-0.13e-SN-5.tar.bz2
{...}
firebird plasmahh # tar xvfj orinoco-0.13e-SN-5.tar.bz2
{...}
firebird plasmahh # cd orinoco-0.13e-SN-5/
firebird orinoco-0.13e-SN-5 # make install


Same compiling errors as with portage drivers.


Code:
firebird orinoco-0.13e-SN-5 # ll -lart /lib/modules/2.6.9/extra/
total 104
drwxr-xr-x  4 root root   448 Dec  9 20:42 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  9598 Dec  9 20:42 hermes.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 53256 Dec  9 20:42 orinoco.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  9491 Dec  9 20:42 orinoco_cs.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  7464 Dec  9 20:42 orinoco_pci.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  7290 Dec  9 20:42 orinoco_plx.ko
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  5432 Dec  9 20:42 orinoco_tmd.ko
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   240 Dec  9 20:42 .
firebird orinoco-0.13e-SN-5 #



And now "The same procedure as every year james" (In which countries is "Dinner
for one played?) we are inserting the Orinoco card.

And now what will dmesg show us?

Code:
firebird orinoco-0.13e-SN-5 # dmesg
firebird orinoco-0.13e-SN-5 #


DOH!!!!!

Ok, removing the card and do:

Code:
firebird orinoco-0.13e-SN-5 # depmod -a
firebird orinoco-0.13e-SN-5 #


And reinsert the card one more time.

The diff between CVS and plasmahh:
Code:
-orinoco 0.15rc2STA (David Gibson <hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au>, Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>, et al)
-orinoco_cs 0.15rc2STA (David Gibson <hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au>, Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>, et al)
-eth1: Hardware identity 0001:0004:0005:0000
-eth1: Station identity  001f:0001:0008:0048
-eth1: Firmware determined as Lucent/Agere 8.72
+orinoco.c 0.13e (David Gibson <hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au> and others)
+Compiled with Wireless extensions v.16
+orinoco_cs.c 0.13e (David Gibson <hermes@gibson.dropbear.id.au> and others)
+eth1: Station identity 001f:0001:0008:0048
+eth1: Looks like a Lucent/Agere firmware version 8.72



And the iwconfig eth1 diff looks like this:

Code:

-eth1      IEEE 802.11b  ESSID:""  Nickname:"HERMES I"
+eth1      IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:""  Nickname:"HERMES I"
           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.422 GHz  Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00   
-          Bit Rate:11 Mb/s   Sensitivity:1/3 
+          Bit Rate:11 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm   Sensitivity:1/3 
           Retry limit:4   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
           Encryption key:off
           Power Management:off
-          Link Quality=0/92  Signal level=134/153  Noise level=134/153
-          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
-          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0



I don't know what 802.11-DS means and if anybody needs Link Quality or somethink
like that, but now we're goin on.


Let's go on with something relevant.
Activating the "monitor" mode:

The old method:
Code:
firebird orinoco-0.13e-SN-5 # iwpriv eth1 monitor 2 11
firebird orinoco-0.13e-SN-5 # ifconfig eth1 up
firebird orinoco-0.13e-SN-5 # ifconfig eth1
eth1      Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr 00-02-2D-C3-DB-96-01-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
          Interrupt:10 Base address:0x100

firebird orinoco-0.13e-SN-5 #



Looks like the Orinoco is now in "monitoring" mode.
Good things come to those who wait.


And what is with the new method?


First remove the card - reinsert the card - look if card is in "normal" mode.

firebird orinoco-0.13e-SN-5 # ifconfig eth1 | head -n 1
eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:02:2D:C3:DB:96
firebird orinoco-0.13e-SN-5 #
[/code]


BTW: in dmesg aren't any new messages

The new one:

Code:
firebird orinoco-0.13e-SN-5 # iwconfig eth1 mode monitor
Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
    SET failed on device eth1 ; Invalid argument.
firebird orinoco-0.13e-SN-5 #



But no message in syslog
Code:
firebird orinoco-0.13e-SN-5 # dmesg | tail -n 5
eth1: WEP supported, 104-bit key
eth1: MAC address 00:02:2D:C3:DB:96
eth1: Station name "HERMES I"
eth1: ready
eth1: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 10, io 0x0100-0x013f
firebird orinoco-0.13e-SN-5 #



And now just a look in iwpriv
Code:
firebird orinoco-0.13e-SN-5 # iwpriv  eth1
eth1      Available private ioctl :
          force_reset      (8BE0) : set   0       & get   0     
          card_reset       (8BE1) : set   0       & get   0     
          set_port3        (8BE2) : set   1 int   & get   0     
          get_port3        (8BE3) : set   0       & get   1 int 
          set_preamble     (8BE4) : set   1 int   & get   0     
          get_preamble     (8BE5) : set   0       & get   1 int 
          set_ibssport     (8BE6) : set   1 int   & get   0     
          get_ibssport     (8BE7) : set   0       & get   1 int 
          monitor          (8BE8) : set   2 int   & get   0     
          dump_recs        (8BFF) : set   0       & get   0


That looks nice.


So, finaly u know what drivers to use, if ur using an brand new Orinoco card
with 8.72 Firmware on.

I hope that overview helps anyone.

Greets hashier


------------------------------------------------------------------------
Form plasmahh
Quote:
root@home:~ # iwpriv eth0 monitor
m - one of the following
0 - disable monitor mode
1 - enable monitor mode with Prism2 header info prepended
to packet (ARPHRD_IEEE80211_PRISM)
2 - enable monitor mode with no Prism2 info (ARPHRD_IEEE80211)
c - channel to monitor


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 9:45 pm    Post subject: Thank YOU!! Reply with quote

Thank you soooo much! You have summed up all of my frusterations, and the solution in a nutshell. THANK YOU. This worked perfectly for me, after fighting with an orinoco silver pcmcia wavelan card. Now, to kismet!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks a lot :) nice guide...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey thanx for the great guide.

1 thing though, this works great in 2.6, but i'm having a bitch of a time with 2.4.26.

Does anyone know if this package is suppost to work in 2.4??

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm having problems from the beginning, when i plugin the card nothing new comes in dmesg, and when i call iwconfig it says that there are no devices, what do i need in the kernel besides wireless no harm radio enabled?
I have a orinoco silver, and i have installed pcmcia-cs from portage and kernel 2.6.8.1
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a look in:

/var/log/syslog
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, my orinoco silver is using firmware 6.16 and your recommendations were useful for setting my card, but now where can i find how to set all the rest? the ip, the route, the wep, i'm new with wifi.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RTFM


ifconfig eth1 <ip> up
iwconfig eth1 essid <essid>
iwconfig eth1 key s:<ascci key> [1]
iwconfig eth1 key [1]
iwconfig eth1 key on
route add default gw <ip vom gateway>


Edit /etc/resolv.conf
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GREAT info and well writed... thx :wink:
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed.. this was a great HOWTO! I was having lots of issues. I followed your 3 tests and was successful with plasmahh's drivers. Kismet works now too :) Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:06 am    Post subject: hashier I need some help... please ;) Hope this helps sum1.. Reply with quote

This is weird but I tried many combinations of patches/drivers and couldnt get anything to work till the point that I gave up. The last driver that I had installed when I quit trying was the portage version net-wireless/orinoco-0.15_rc2-r1.

Then today I started kismet and it worked! I was on my laptop ( the above mentioned was on my server/desktop ) and in a vnc window to the server I started kismet, in my mind I wasnt thinking that I was using the server, I was thinking it was the laptop w/ an atheros card. And then it just worked, I was like holy $#!^. Then I checked iwpriv and monitor was listed.

The only thing different is I upgraded to sys-apps/baselayout-1.11.12-r4, ran etc-update, and rewrote my /etc/conf.d/net & /etc/conf.d/wireless with the new syntax.

Here is my uname & dmesg:

Code:
root@theone tmp # uname -a
Linux theone 2.6.11-hardened-r1 #11 Sat Jun 25 11:28:01 EST 2005 i586 AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
root@theone / # cardctl eject
root@theone / # cardctl insert
root@theone / # dmesg
eth1: Station identity 001f:0001:0008:0048
eth1: Looks like a Lucent/Agere firmware version 8.72
eth1: Ad-hoc demo mode supported
eth1: IEEE standard IBSS ad-hoc mode supported
eth1: WEP supported, 104-bit key
eth1: MAC address 00:02:2D:1F:34:18
eth1: Station name "HERMES I"
eth1: ready
eth1: index 0x01: Vcc 5.0, irq 5, io 0x0100-0x013f
root@theone / #


Here is my iwpriv:

Code:
root@theone / # iwpriv eth1
eth1      Available private ioctl :
          force_reset      (8BE0) : set   0       & get   0     
          card_reset       (8BE1) : set   0       & get   0     
          set_port3        (8BE2) : set   1 int   & get   0     
          get_port3        (8BE3) : set   0       & get   1 int 
          set_preamble     (8BE4) : set   1 int   & get   0     
          get_preamble     (8BE5) : set   0       & get   1 int 
          set_ibssport     (8BE6) : set   1 int   & get   0     
          get_ibssport     (8BE7) : set   0       & get   1 int 
          monitor          (8BE8) : set   2 int   & get   0     
          dump_recs        (8BFF) : set   0       & get   0     

root@theone / #


N.B. First just a few more background details...
I have pcmcia-cs-3.2.7-r4 installed.
Kernel config relating to this issue:
Code:
Bus Options -> PCCARD support ->
  x x            <*> PCCard (PCMCIA/CardBus) support                       
  x x            [ ]   Enable PCCARD debugging                             
  x x            <*>   16-bit PCMCIA support                               
  x x            [*]   32-bit CardBus support                               
  x x            --- PC-card bridges                                         
  x x            <*> CardBus yenta-compatible bridge support

Device Drivers -> Networking Support -> Wireless LAN ->
  x x[*] Wireless LAN drivers (non-hamradio) & Wireless Extensions       
  x x---   Obsolete Wireless cards support (pre-802.11)                   
  x x<*>   Hermes chipset 802.11b support (Orinoco/Prism2/Symbol)         
  x x< >     Hermes in PLX9052 based PCI adaptor support (Netgear MA301etc) 
  x x< >     Hermes in TMD7160 based PCI adaptor support (EXPERIMENTAL)   
  x x< >     Prism 2.5 PCI 802.11b adaptor support (EXPERIMENTAL)           
  x x---   Wireless 802.11b Pcmcia/Cardbus cards support                 
  x x<M>   Hermes PCMCIA card support


One more thing output from lsmod:
Code:
root@theone / # lsmod                                                       
Module                  Size  Used by
ipv6                  230336  16
root@theone / #



So here is my problem that I need help with...

Now I rebooted the server for the heck of it to make sure I changed all the neccessary files for the new baselayout and that the now working monitor mode wasnt a fluke.
Now when the server starts up everything boots and loads as normal until I get to my wireless pcmcia orinoco gold classic card. First cardmanager starts up. Then the cardmanager trys to load the orinoco_cs modules and fails because it cant find them, then it brings up the wireless card using my new net and wireless configs in /etc/conf.d/ (with the portage drivers i think), connects to my prefferred ap, calls dhcpcd, then loads my firewall and proceeds on normally. Everything works perfect and monitor mode is present and functional. Only thing is the annoying messages of failing to load the modules (which I dont want them to load anyway).

My question is how do I stop it from trying to load the modules that it cant find w/o dirty hacking the /etc/init.d/pcmcia script??
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