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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2002 7:15 am    Post subject: [JA] Japanese Gentoo user Reply with quote

日本語でgentooを語ろう
というスレッド



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2003 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

読める?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2003 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, it looks like the forum doesn't support non-western languages :(
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2003 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem has to do with the fact that you can't mix character encodings in a single HTML page. Text submitted to a form is in the encoding of the surrounding page. For the English forum skin, that's ISO-8859-1. If we could get the Japanese forum skin going, it would be possible to post Japanese.

We are working on a solution to this problem that will hopefully solve this gracefully for Japanese and other non-Latin1 character encodings, but I can't give an estimate for when it will be working yet, because a couple of other things have to fall into place. Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks for your patience.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2003 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no rush, I think many Japanese Gentoo users can do english quite well enough :)
thx in any case
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2003 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

これは日本語テストです

it only works in the author column it seems
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2003 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you look at the source of the html page, you can see that in the autors column the unicode codes are right:

Code:
Location: パリ。フランス


but in the message part phpbb added "amp;" between the & and the #

Code:
<span class="postbody">&#12371;&#12428;&#12399;&#26085;&#26412; &#35486;&#12486;&#12473;&#12488;&#12391;&#12377;


EDIT (rac): offering to phpBB linebreak gods
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2003 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if phpBB is doing that on the output side, or if the browser is escaping things before they get sent.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2003 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's probably part of the filter which converts ubb code into html
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2003 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just fooling around here: I'm trying to reproduce that author location display of Japanese characters that you've managed to get to work, but all I get is a display of the UTF-8 codes instead of the actual display. How did you do it?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a step in the wrong direction now it doesn't work anymore at all.
'amps' are added even in the profile.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

日本語
漢字
ひらがな
カタカナ
第3新東京市

Ok now it works in the main message colum, I hope it'll work again soon in the profile / authors column
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wicked, let me try this...
これは日本語のテストだ。
Gentooの日本語ができるForumへようこそう!!
(couldn't figure out how to have "fo" in katakana)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

やっぱこれだ!すごいじゃん!ありがとう!
何で急にできたのかなあ○
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

私も遊べるのでしょうか?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mickywicky wrote:
(couldn't figure out how to have "fo" in katakana)
フォ
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rac wrote:
私も遊べるのでしょうか?

ご自分でフォーラムを日本語化したじゃないんですか? 8)
Is it just my local display or do tens and marus look elevated to you too?
。 maru
、 ten
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

キタ━━━━━━ :lol: (゚∀゚) :P ━━━━━━!!

ついに日本語が使用可能になりましたね。

どなたにお礼を申し上げればよいのでしょうか?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

どうでしょうかね。おそRAC々のおかげだろうと思いますが。 8)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2003 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

「凄く苦労した」と言いたいけれど、嘘です。まだ原因は不明ですが、最近の phpBB 2.0.4 のアップグレードは今の所一番可能性が高いかと思われています。自然に使えるようになりました。

*shrug*

@plate: 点と丸は普通の位置で表示されまる
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2003 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

自然に治ったの?8O よかったね。。。:lol:

区切りの表示問題はPhoenixに限られていて分かってきました。Konquerorには順調に表示してます。
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

>どうでしょうかね。おそRAC々のおかげだろうと思いますが。

>「凄く苦労した」と言いたいけれど、嘘です。まだ原因は不明ですが、
>最近の phpBB 2.0.4 のアップグレードは今の所一番可能性が高いかと
>思われています。自然に使えるようになりました。

自然に日本語使用可能になったという事は、また自然に使えなくなる
という事もあるのだろうか。。。 :roll:

とにかく、rac氏ならびに八百万(やおよろず)の神さまに感謝いたします。

(02/06 22:13 JST 文字コード修正しました。)


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2003 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

面白いことにmona-さんのEUC_JPにエンコードされたメッセージはブラウザーの自動選択モードで文字化けになってしまいますが、逆にブラウザーをEUC_JPにすると区切りの表示問題は解決して来ます。不思議だなあ。。。 8O
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

うわ、すごいですね。では、日本語フォーラムを設立しましょうか?

plate: 句読点等の問題は、なぜかPhoenixのフォントをSans SerifからSerifに変えたら直ってしまいました。訳あって僕はMozillaに移ってますが。
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2003 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

あ、本当だ。 8O Serifなら大丈夫ですけど、やっぱり酷いフォントになっちゃいます。じゃあ、KHTMLの方がいいんでしょうか。Steve Jobsもそう思うんじゃないですか? :lol:
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