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Dutchie
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 Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:04 pm Post subject: kde has released a patch for xcompmgr integration |
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Hiya all,
kde has released a patch for xcompmgr integration
Configuration is looking good for transparancy. multiple choices on focussed windows - unfocussed windows etc.
Somebody already scripting???
Have fun
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fourwood
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| Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Can we get a link to this patch? |
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Dutchie
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neuron
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| Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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anyone tested if when xcompmgr crashes it takes kwin with it?
Cuz if it doesn't running it all the time would be fine  |
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Dutchie
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:24 am Post subject: |
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anyone tested if when xcompmgr crashes it takes kwin with it?
Cuz if it doesn't running it all the time would be fine Wink
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If you read the kde patch page, you see that it is compiled within the kwin source code. So it depends highly on kwin.
Greetz
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Zarhan
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| Any word on whether this will be included in KDE 3.3.1? Or will it be included in Gentoo's KDE ebuilds? |
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Dutchie
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Any word on whether this will be included in KDE 3.3.1? Or will it be included in Gentoo's KDE ebuilds?
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No word found about the inclusion in the next release of kde. That is why i asked the guys here to include it in a special ebuild.
It runs very stable and smooth on my computer with nvidia vid card. But as far as i have read on ati vid cards it is crime ( but then ati is a crime )
Greetz
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furanku
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| Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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This is an unofficial patch on kde-apps and in no way an official kde release. As far as I can see, some KDE apps do have serious issues with the composite extension, kuickshow for example stops displaying the images when the composite extension is enabled. Even the xorg developers say that the composite extension is experimental und maybe unstable.
I think active support for translucency and shadows will be introduced after all problems with the extensions are fixed, so there surely will be a bug-fixing release, before we see an official "composite extension" supported KDE .
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Steven Robertson
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Here's an ebuild with the patch included. It's hosted on my cable modem; be gentle. :)
http://www.ninjacomputer.com/kdebase-kwinxcomp-.5.tar.bz2
It uses version 0.5. Just unpack in /usr/local/portage and emerge -u kdebase.
NOTE that I titled the package -r1, which is really naughty as if an official -r1 is released, portage won't see it. Just be aware that it can break Gentoo-sanctioned updates.
Steve
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Dutchie
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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Very cool thnx!!
Will test asap
We are Gentoo afterall 
Version 0.4 is indeed the latest.
THnx
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GentooBox
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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what does the patch do ?
does it apply shadows on every window ? and nothing else ?
i hate the shadows xcompmgr, they are so fake.
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Steven Robertson
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| The patch gives you a new tab on the Window Decorations kcontrol (Translucency). On it, you can set the translucency for Active Windows, Inactive Windows, Moving Windows, and Docks. Thus, selecting a window (as I have it configured) makes it 100% opaque, and the window I was deselecting 50% opaque. It's OSX-like, a bit, minus the fading (that's coming, though). |
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Dutchie
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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what does the patch do ?
does it apply shadows on every window ? and nothing else ?
i hate the shadows xcompmgr, they are so fake.
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This patch places shadow and transparancy on kde.
BUT there is soon also an patch available for window without the shadow
See more info:
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http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=16114
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Greetz
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Dutchie
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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@ Steven
After my current emerge i will do your patch, and i will be gentle to your cable modem |
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Dutchie
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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When i try to emerge -u kdebase, it connect to my normal mirror and downloads the normal kdebase 
Shouldn't it go to your cable modem? Or do i have to configure something else?
Thnx in advance
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Steven Robertson
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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I just updated the above link to version .5; use that instead. Unpack in the same place and overwrite all.
In the future, you can be sure to have the latest version of the patch by running the following:
| Code: | wget -O - 'http://www.kde-apps.org/content/download.php?content=16114&id=1' |\
bzcat | sed 's: [.]/: kwin/:g' >\
/usr/local/portage/kde-base/kdebase/files/3.3.0-kwinxcomp.diff |
Unfortunately, because of the nature of kde-apps.org's download system, I can't integrate that into the ebuild. Just run that command _after_ unpacking, and you'll be all set with the latest patch version. (You'll still need to remerge kdebase, run 'emerge kdebase' (note the absence of a -u)).
Dutchie: The tarball is hosted on my cable modem, but the kdebase package is on the Gentoo mirrors. The only thing you download from me is the 22Kb tarball. You're fine. |
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Dutchie
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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just updated the above link to version .5; use that instead. Unpack in the same place and overwrite all.
In the future, you can be sure to have the latest version of the patch by running the following:
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wget -O - 'http://www.kde-apps.org/content/download.php?content=16114&id=1' |\
bzcat | sed 's: [.]/: kwin/:g' >\
/usr/local/portage/kde-base/kdebase/files/3.3.0-kwinxcomp.diff
Unfortunately, because of the nature of kde-apps.org's download system, I can't integrate that into the ebuild. Just run that command _after_ unpacking, and you'll be all set with the latest patch version. (You'll still need to remerge kdebase, run 'emerge kdebase' (note the absence of a -u)).
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ok now i am confused
After i download ur patch and unpacked to the desired directory
i have to run
Without the -u parameter? Is that correct?
[edit]
Thnx for the .5 patch btw
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Thnx again for helping a noob
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Steven Robertson
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Step by step:
1. Download above patch.
2. Unpack in /usr/local/portage.
3. Make sure that the line 'PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage' is uncommented in /etc/make.conf.
4. Run command given above (in 'code' segment).
5. Run 'emerge kdebase'.
All of this is done as root.
HTH! |
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Dutchie
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| Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| OK thnx |
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joseh
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| Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 12:32 am Post subject: kwin |
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if kwin crashes and you don't have a konsole open, you can switch to console on the same machine and do
I know you can make daemons restart automatically system wide any time crashed or killed. There is some program to do this, but I forget. Maybe someone else remembers. |
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sibov
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:28 am Post subject: |
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since i update my kdebase with your patch, my konqueror crashs in file mode when ever i try to move with my mouse over it.
could this by due to your kdebase patch or does nobody got this behaviour?
Thanx in advance. 
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[New Thread 1095751584 (LWP 17007)]
[KCrash handler]
#2 0x4225acfb in KonqSoundPlayerImpl::mimeTypes() ()
from /usr/kde/3.3/lib/kde3/konq_sound.so
#3 0x41548479 in KonqIconViewWidget::slotOnItem(QIconViewItem*) ()
from /usr/kde/3.3/lib/libkonq.so.4
#4 0x4154943d in KonqIconViewWidget::qt_invoke(int, QUObject*) ()
from /usr/kde/3.3/lib/libkonq.so.4
#5 0x40bc5c36 in QObject::activate_signal(QConnectionList*, QUObject*) ()
from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#6 0x40f304dd in QIconView::onItem(QIconViewItem*) ()
from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#7 0x40d8c2bd in QIconView::contentsMouseMoveEvent(QMouseEvent*) ()
from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#8 0x41545575 in KonqIconViewWidget::contentsMouseMoveEvent(QMouseEvent*) ()
from /usr/kde/3.3/lib/libkonq.so.4
#9 0x40cdb122 in QScrollView::viewportMouseMoveEvent(QMouseEvent*) ()
from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#10 0x40cda859 in QScrollView::eventFilter(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#11 0x40d909ff in QIconView::eventFilter(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#12 0x40bc35ee in QObject::activate_filters(QEvent*) ()
from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#13 0x40bc351c in QObject::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#14 0x40bfbcaf in QWidget::event(QEvent*) () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#15 0x40b6987f in QApplication::internalNotify(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#16 0x40b68ce4 in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#17 0x406ed23a in KApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
from /usr/kde/3.3/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#18 0x40afef40 in QETWidget::translateMouseEvent(_XEvent const*) ()
from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#19 0x40afcba3 in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent(_XEvent*) ()
from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#20 0x40b13cd4 in QEventLoop::processEvents(unsigned) ()
from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#21 0x40b7ba48 in QEventLoop::enterLoop() () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#22 0x40b7b8f8 in QEventLoop::exec() () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#23 0x40b69ad1 in QApplication::exec() () from /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#24 0x4191408a in kdemain () from /usr/kde/3.3/lib/libkdeinit_konqueror.so
#25 0x418a77bc in kdeinitmain () from /usr/kde/3.3/lib/kde3/konqueror.so
#26 0x0804d2ac in QGList::clear() ()
#27 0x0804e8c1 in QGList::clear() ()
#28 0x0804eeba in QGList::clear() ()
#29 0x0805009d in QGList::clear() ()
#30 0x413f4f4e in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6
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Steven Robertson
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| Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| It may well be (although I haven't experienced the said fault). However, I am not the maintainer of the patch; just of the ebuild which auto-applies it for us lucky Gentoo folks. The place to contact the author of the patch would be through the kde-apps.org page linked in the third post. |
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flocchini
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:10 am Post subject: |
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I tried to update the .diff to 0.7 version with che provided command but doesn't work...
| Code: | utopia_planitia root # wget -O - 'http://www.kde-apps.org/content/download.php?content=16114&id=1' |\
-bash: : command not found
--13:09:24-- http://www.kde-apps.org/content/download.php?content=16114&id=1
=> `-'
Resolving www.kde-apps.org... 66.111.55.80
Connecting to www.kde-apps.org[66.111.55.80]:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
Location: /content/files/16114-kwinxcomp.diff.bz2 [following]
--13:09:24-- http://www.kde-apps.org/content/files/16114-kwinxcomp.diff.bz2
=> `-'
Connecting to www.kde-apps.org[66.111.55.80]:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 9,652 [text/plain]
0% [ ] 0 --.--K/s
Cannot write to `16114-kwinxcomp.diff.bz2' (Broken pipe).
utopia_planitia root # bzcat | sed 's: [.]/: kwin/:g' >\
bzcat: I won't read compressed data from a terminal.
bzcat: For help, type: `bzcat --help'.
utopia_planitia root # /usr/local/portage/kde-base/kdebase/files/3.3.0-kwinxcomp.diff
-bash: /usr/local/portage/kde-base/kdebase/files/3.3.0-kwinxcomp.diff: Permissiondenied
utopia_planitia root #
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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my fault... please ignore my previous post, the question is solved 
Now I have another problem. I have selected trasparency only for inactive windows and it works. But when I minimize a window in taskbar, when it returns on top (active) si still translucent and not solid. How to solve? Tnx
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Illissius
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Can I get this to apply to 3.3.1 somehow? I took a look at the ebuild, but I'm not very good at them and didn't see any immediately obvious way...
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