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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2002 8:30 am    Post subject: xine css plugins Reply with quote

I note that d4d and d5d are masked, perhaps the reason is obvious, but should I download them and install conventionally, or is there someway I can by-pass masking, or is this a seriously stupid question?
I need to play my legally purchased dvds!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 03, 2002 11:27 am    Post subject: Re: xine css plugins Reply with quote

hulmeman wrote:
I note that d4d and d5d are masked, perhaps the reason is obvious, but should I download them and install conventionally, or is there someway I can by-pass masking, or is this a seriously stupid question?


Apparently they dont work with Xine 0.9.10 and above.

hulmeman wrote:

I need to play my legally purchased dvds!


What about Ogle? That's very nice too. :-)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2002 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have alot of problems with ogle playing dvd's. It stutters all the time even when there is no cpu load. Half the time it crashes when trying to start dvd playback. I also have similar problems with mplayer. Xine on the otherhand seems to be the better player. Everything plays very smoothly under it. Except dvds of course. So I'm with hulmeman on this one we need updated xine dvd playback capabilites.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2002 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have alot of problems with ogle playing dvd's. It stutters all the time even when there is no cpu load. [snip] Everything plays very smoothly under it. Except dvds of course. So I'm with hulmeman on this one we need updated xine dvd playback capabilites.


"Everything plays smoothly except DVD's" is very interesting. Does your computer play DVDs fine on other Operating Systems? I have an AthlonXP processor now but on my old AthlonTB and even a while ago on a K6-2 500, my DVDs played fine.

Xine, MPlayer and Ogle all play DVD's flawlessly here. My problem with Xine is a bug with it and my NVidia card.

Do you have v4l compiled into the kernel? If you don't want stuttery DVD playback, you need it. IIRC anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2002 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Do you have v4l compiled into the kernel? If you don't want stuttery DVD playback, you need it. IIRC anyway.


The machine is a 1.7ghz P4 with 512mb of ram and a geforce3 video card. Anyways I never knew that I would need v4l in the kernel to play movies and such. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2002 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

leej wrote:
Do you have v4l compiled into the kernel? If you don't want stuttery DVD playback, you need it. IIRC anyway.


v4l? You mean "Video for Linux"? That's video capture/video mastering equipment, not DVD playback. DVD playback uses standard processing techniques in software and simply forwards it to X to display, there's no kernel options involved. (Unless you have a hardware decoder, but that's another issue entirely.)

For performance tips, check that you have enough RAM and see if your CPU is getting sucked down.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2002 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

delta407 wrote:
leej wrote:
Do you have v4l compiled into the kernel? If you don't want stuttery DVD playback, you need it. IIRC anyway.


v4l? You mean "Video for Linux"? That's video capture/video mastering equipment, not DVD playback. DVD playback uses standard processing techniques in software and simply forwards it to X to display, there's no kernel options involved.


If you intend to use Xine with the XV driver (far nicer on your CPU with far better output than XShm), V4l being enabled will improve performance - certainly if your display card supports direct rendering. More on this over at:
http://dvd.sourceforge.net/xine-howto/en_GB/html/howto-8.html

Without V4L enabled, my DVD performance on three machines is frankly, s**t slow and stutters terribly (despite a fast processor). Regardless of whether I'm using Ogle, Xine or MPlayer. Does the v4l API give direct access to the overlay of the display cards in question perhaps?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2002 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

leej wrote:
Does the v4l API give direct access to the overlay of the display cards in question perhaps?

Access to the cards is the role of the X server. Drivers there can talk to a kernel-level resource module (i.e. DRM/DRI as mentioned in "8.3 The XVideo extension" or nvidia-kernel), but that's not the "Video for Linux" kernel option.

Code:
CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV:

Support for audio/video capture and overlay devices and FM radio cards. The exact capabilities of each device vary. ...

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i found that xine-dvdnav works very well, even better than d5d.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2002 8:49 pm    Post subject: Xine 0.9.1 with dvd-nav Reply with quote

I have a Gentoo 1.2 and Xine 0.9.1 with an Athlon 900 400 meg ram GeForce 2 TI 200. My DVD are playing smoother than i ever seen on a pc before. In order to play the encrypted dvd you will requiered to do the following :

emerge xine-ui
emerge xine-dvdnav

Make sure the X-Synchronise option is not enable in the xine option.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 7:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Xine 0.9.1 with dvd-nav Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nevermind... using dvdnav now. choppy playback, but at least it works.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2002 11:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Xine 0.9.1 with dvd-nav Reply with quote

Make sure you're using Xv and not XShm as a video driver and that you have DMA enabled for your DVD driver (in your kernel or using hdparm).

dvdnav works very well.


symtex wrote:
I have a Gentoo 1.2 and Xine 0.9.1 with an Athlon 900 400 meg ram GeForce 2 TI 200. My DVD are playing smoother than i ever seen on a pc before. In order to play the encrypted dvd you will requiered to do the following :

emerge xine-ui
emerge xine-dvdnav

Make sure the X-Synchronise option is not enable in the xine option.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to add my $0.02 --

To reiterate -- TURN OFF X-Synchronise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I beat my head against this all day with xine, and this was the one option I didn't mess with. *sigh*
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how do you turn off X-synchronise?

thanks

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved from OTG.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you pull up the options, it's the very first one on the very first (GUI) tab. How embarrassing for me!
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