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thaldyron Apprentice
Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 227 Location: On Earth
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blaster999 l33t
Joined: 09 May 2004 Posts: 902 Location: Between keyboard and chair
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Good idea! I'm signing. BTW, I'll add the link to my signature. _________________ 60s: sex, drugs, rock'n'roll
90s: sux, bugs, drag'n'drop
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Joe n00b
Joined: 01 Jul 2002 Posts: 70 Location: Europe
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:39 pm Post subject: It's not just for ATI users |
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IMHO it's for all linux users, because even users of cards of different manufactureres benefit from good ATI drivers.
First, it's always good to have a choice and second, it's good for everybody if ATI users can use linux more easily and effectively.
We have more than 63500 forum users registered at this moment. It would be sad if we can't get more than 6350 subscribers of that petition!
Regards,
Joe |
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dangertools Apprentice
Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 278 Location: Saalfelden, Austria
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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shouldn't this be posted to the hardware forum so that more people recognize it?
dangertools
PS.: counter is at 357 |
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Beleaguered n00b
Joined: 06 Jan 2003 Posts: 19
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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someone should at least fix the spelling of "Raedon" in this |
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blaster999 l33t
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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It would be good if mods moved this topic to "Kernel & Hardware" and made it sticky. There are many ATI users who will benefit from the better drivers.
I suppose that if those who want better drivers added the link to their signature, even more people would sign the petition. What do you think? _________________ 60s: sex, drugs, rock'n'roll
90s: sux, bugs, drag'n'drop
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Mongrol Guru
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Why does it only demand drivers up to 9800 series cards? What about the latest series? |
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Joe n00b
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Mongrol wrote: | Why does it only demand drivers up to 9800 series cards? What about the latest series? |
I think ATI will understand the message... |
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foosh Apprentice
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 231 Location: STL
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Strag n00b
Joined: 13 Dec 2003 Posts: 8 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Signed. |
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chINeSe mIDgEts Apprentice
Joined: 02 Mar 2004 Posts: 209 Location: look behind you
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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i am offically signing.... had to go with a geforce4 cuz i didnt want to deal with ati drivers, and my budget was thin _________________ ...it must have been very demanding having to learn how to use Microsoft Office, right up there with other lofty challenges like learning how to zip your fly without getting your dick caught. |
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Roguelazer Veteran
Joined: 10 Feb 2003 Posts: 1233 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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I'll sign because for the last two ATI cards I've had, the drivers didn't work at all. _________________ Registered Linux User #263260 |
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nsahoo l33t
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 618
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:17 am Post subject: |
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signed .. currently thinking of selling 9800 pro and get some nvidia card.
edit: we need to make this sticky. not sure how effective is petitiononline though |
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miqorz Veteran
Joined: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 1170 Location: Pissing into the wind.
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:33 am Post subject: |
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I'd like to own a couple ATI cards but their piss poor linux support has drove me away from even CONSIDERING it..
Consider it SIGNED. |
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ptcoakley n00b
Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 11
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:45 am Post subject: |
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Its odd, but I haven't had ANY trouble with ATI drivers whatsoever since I did my Stage One. All I had to do was disable XFree DRM and thats really it. Works great, no problems on ANY kernels. But I will say that, prior to this, I had tons of trouble with their drivers. I hope they listen to the users, and make better products for all it's users, and not just the majority. |
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nsahoo l33t
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 618
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:49 am Post subject: |
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ptcoakley wrote: | Its odd, but I haven't had ANY trouble with ATI drivers whatsoever since I did my Stage One. All I had to do was disable XFree DRM and thats really it. Works great, no problems on ANY kernels. But I will say that, prior to this, I had tons of trouble with their drivers. I hope they listen to the users, and make better products for all it's users, and not just the majority. |
it's not the trouble people complain about, it's the poor performance on linux. On windows XP, radeon 9800 is probably the best card you can have. but, on linux it's as bad as geforce 4. |
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grubber33 n00b
Joined: 27 Aug 2003 Posts: 62
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:17 am Post subject: |
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Mongrol wrote: | Why does it only demand drivers up to 9800 series cards? What about the latest series? | It's unfortunate when people don't read then ask questions. Let me try to make this clear for you.
The products we include in this are as follows:
1. All desktop Raedon chips up through 9800
2. All mobile Raedon chips up through 9800
3. ALL X-SERIES CHIPS
4. All TV and Remote Wonders
5. All FireGL chips
Hope that helps. |
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ptcoakley n00b
Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 11
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:54 am Post subject: |
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nsahoo wrote: | ptcoakley wrote: | Its odd, but I haven't had ANY trouble with ATI drivers whatsoever since I did my Stage One. All I had to do was disable XFree DRM and thats really it. Works great, no problems on ANY kernels. But I will say that, prior to this, I had tons of trouble with their drivers. I hope they listen to the users, and make better products for all it's users, and not just the majority. |
it's not the trouble people complain about, it's the poor performance on linux. On windows XP, radeon 9800 is probably the best card you can have. but, on linux it's as bad as geforce 4. |
Yea, you are right about that... I only get like 15k GLXGears, whereas some nV cards get ~30,000... Doesn't bother me as much as it did before, though, since I play most games on my XBox these days anyways. My 9800 Pro does get used for some UT2k4 [quit playing competitvely though since I moved to Gentoo] and some other games. The performance could indeed be better. |
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Cinder6 l33t
Joined: 05 Aug 2004 Posts: 767 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:04 am Post subject: |
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Signed and put in sig. _________________ Knowledge is power.
Power corrupts.
Study hard.
Be evil.
Ugly Overload |
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hiroki Guru
Joined: 29 Jul 2003 Posts: 327 Location: @home in germany
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:21 am Post subject: |
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ATI, go go go
signed and... not put in sig yet |
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jmz2 Guru
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 421 Location: Finland
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:24 am Post subject: |
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I signed it too. Though I'd appreciate more if they made the drivers more stable and improved TV-out support. 3D graphics can wait. |
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piquadrat Guru
Joined: 18 Feb 2003 Posts: 301 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:09 am Post subject: |
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ptcoakley wrote: | Yea, you are right about that... I only get like 15k GLXGears, whereas some nV cards get ~30,000... |
I get a whooping 1500 fps in glxgears with a 9600XT on SuSE 9.1 with the newest fglrx and X.org...
Damn you, ATi! |
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pjp Administrator
Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20067
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Funny... there was another petition in 2003. Guess ATi doesn't care.
And another one here. _________________ Quis separabit? Quo animo? |
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ernstp Apprentice
Joined: 19 Aug 2002 Posts: 155 Location: Lund - Sweden
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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They have gotten 241 names in more than half a year...
We've gotten 1500 names in TWO days!
We have to show ATi that we're many nowdays, and that we care!
PS And give us back the AMD64 thread! _________________ Tell ATI that you want better linux drivers NOW!
http://www.petitiononline.com/atipet/petition.html |
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ernstp Apprentice
Joined: 19 Aug 2002 Posts: 155 Location: Lund - Sweden
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Btw, the 2003 petition says this:
Quote: | To: ATi Technologies Inc.
We are a group of Italian Linux User and in our PC we have an Ati Technologies Inc. video card (mainly Radeon). We have to use the TV-Out feature of Your Video Cards but the Utility work only in Windows.We know that our OS doesn't have a big number of users (like Windows (TM)) but we think that one of your primary goal is the compatibility with all the OS, not only Windows. So we ask to Ati Technologies Inc. to produce an official driver for XFree86 4.3.0 and a little and simple grafic utility to configure and activate all feeature like Tv-Out.
With Regards
Sincerely,
The Undersigned |
Isn't that EXACTLY what ATi has done? I think they do listen to petition, but it might be hard to see that they do... _________________ Tell ATI that you want better linux drivers NOW!
http://www.petitiononline.com/atipet/petition.html |
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