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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2002 3:15 am    Post subject: The Documentation is Great but... Reply with quote

Are there any documentation (except the help)
which tells us what to enable or disable in make menuconfig?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2002 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume you're talking about kernel configuration. There aren't all that many guides about it, you just sort have to play around and find out what works. In the documentation it does mention some stuff about devfs (/dev file system support), but that's about it.

The basics are:
* Always have filesystem support for ext2, and of course the one you're using, possibly msdos/vfat if you have windows floppies
* Have some kind of power management support (Either APM or ACPI depending on your bios) so you can shutdown properly.
* Don't enable options that you're never gonna use.
* Don't disable preselected options unless you know what they do
* Drivers for your network/sound etc...

It's your call whether to compile drivers into the kernel or as modules, I personally prefer them as modules but you'll get a lot of different opinions about that.

Anybody else want to chime in w/ their suggestions?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2002 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

in the menuconfig you cand use ? to get more informations.

If you dont think you will change often the driver make it into the kernel. If you want to try stuff before you are sure this is what you want you can compile it as module.

What is great about module you can always deactivate or activate. If you compiled into the kernel well you will have to reconfigure the kernel and make it again to change the setting.

The only module I use is sound for Alsa.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2002 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have an nvidia video card and plan on using nvidia's drivers make sure you read this http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia_tsg.xml before compiling your kernel. This will save you a lot of time and trouble..
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2002 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShadyMilkman wrote:

The basics are:

* Have some kind of power management support (Either APM or ACPI depending on your bios) so you can shutd
* Don't disable preselected options unless you know what they do
* Drivers for your network/sound etc...
It's your call whether to compile drivers into the kernel or as modules, I personally prefer them as modules but you'll get a lot of different opinions about that.


I prefer to diable power management in the bios options and omit it from the kernel. Power management is not recommended with SMP.
Some of the preselected options are redundant and can be removed.
Things like your network card may as well be in the kernel, if compiled as modules you will always need them loaded anyway. Modules are ok for things that are uncertain or only occasionally required.
Remember you can always compile more than one kernel and set up GRUB to offer a selection at boot.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2002 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a nice tutorial on kernel configuration. It doesen't go that deep but following this you can get a decent kernel config (after adding your hardware of course).
You have to register though.

The other tutorials are quite usable as well.

EDIT (rac): inlined link to help phpBB break lines
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2002 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best is to enable only things you understand, unless requested by a new hardware or software.
It doesn't take so much time to compile a new kernel.
By the way most of the options are self-explanated when you know what they mean ;)
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2002 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another thing you might want to consider is temporarly not using Gentoo. Problem is, if things don't work out of the box it is sometimes hard to tell if it's a kernel, driver, OS, etc. problem until you get used to the way things work.

You might try installing Mandrake or Redhat, get a (very) basic, bootable system and start recompling your kernel. That way you have a base working system and you can see exactly what happens when you make changes to your kernel.

After you are done playing and have a better working idea of what does what, come back to Gentoo :)
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