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Uranus
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 Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:09 am Post subject: Metisse |
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Just saw it on slashdot. It's kinda like Sun's Looking Glass project. Take a look at these screenies.
Ok, I want it  |
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Decibels
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Just saw that myself and thinking about trying it.
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Epyon
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:48 am Post subject: |
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| That page is loading soooo slow. Stupid slashdot! |
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Epyon
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:36 am Post subject: |
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| Just tried it. Couldn't get it to start. Kept segfaulting. |
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mm/ol
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:56 am Post subject: |
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If anyone gets this running, I'd love a little howto..
Compile was painless, then I made a metisse script in my /etc/X11/Sessions with
#!/bin/sh
Xwnc -geometry 1024x768 :1
metisse-start-fvwm
in it and changed my rc.conf, but when I tried startx, I just got a black screen. ctrl-alt-backspace showed me this :
Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!
Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!
(II) Initializing extension GLX
in my logs. Is my problem just a faulty GLX, or am I doing something else wrong in the install? I'd really like to mess around with this.  |
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Epyon
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| well I noticed that meltisse-start-fvwm was trying to connect to :1 instead of :0 so that might be why it isn't working for you. When I changed the script to connect to :0 it just crashed on me. |
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isoaga
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:28 am Post subject: |
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Ok, my brain seems to have collapsed unded its own weight as i am unable to find this "Xwnc" command anywhere. I think i must have somehow messed a step in the installation. All i have done is the following, all as root and all in the directory in which i unpacked the metisse and nucleo tarballs...
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./configure
make
make install
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But then i am unable to find the Xwnc command to run it!? Some stuff has been installed into the /usr/local but can someone please help me out a little, i'm stumped.
Thanx.
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taviso
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:38 am Post subject: Re: Metisse |
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| Uranus wrote: | Just saw it on slashdot. It's kinda like Sun's Looking Glass project. Take a look at these screenies.
Ok, I want it |
It's pretty awesome, luckily I know fvwm well so I'm porting my theme over 
Current progress: http://dev.gentoo.org/~taviso/metisse.png
Still working on it, but it's coming on nicely, the scale window feature rocks
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Ben2040
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Hi
EDIT2 - WOW!!!!
That has to be the easiest program to install and run, for its relative complexity - copy/pasted both commands and it just popped up almost instantly.
I am a complete newbie on these minamalist WMs - Not been weened from KDE yet  - So could someone post a config/link for tutorial etc? I can pic kup the Metisse bit, just not the FVWM bit....
EDIT3 - WOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just playing - This is fkin amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!
So smooth - total moving transparency and user settable transparency at any time - you can rotate, scale, and mirror/flip windows in _realtime_ and use them with the mouse and everything, at anytime!!!!!!
Windows - eat your heart out............
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kamagurka
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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as nice as this looks, i cannot imagine a real practical use for this...
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Uranus
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| so can anyone ebuild this? |
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Master One
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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As nice as it looks, I also miss the practical use for it. It may be a nice thing to play with, but as a working environment?
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Does it support anything other than fvwm?
I like the idea.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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[quote I also miss the practical use for it.][/quote]
That's right - piss all over my bonfire 
It may not be exceedingly useful, but it's cool and there are some uses - Transparently playing a movie over the top of surfing the internet or writing a document. You can also just angle the movie and angle the other app opposite.
Sounds reasonable to me....
Just a note - I can't get KMail to run - it just segfaults
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Janne Pikkarainen
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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This thing is very much droolable and a cool show-off for all your Windows-friends. Ok, at least for me Metisse seems to be a bit sluggish here and there, but yes, I do realize it still very experimental. But a very promising project! Way to go! Am gonna play with this eye-candy.
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sumin k'adra
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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I only get a blank whitish screen. Xwnc logs:
| Code: | _XSERVTransSocketCreateListener: failed to bind listener
_XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed
_XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: failed to create listener for inet
Fatal server error:
Failed to establish all listening sockets
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Any ideas?
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jkalderash
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Could somebody who's gotten it working give a brief howto? I'm not sure where to put the commands - in .xinitrc? In an xterm? On the console? Right now I've gotten Xwnc to start without errors and metisse to connect, but then it fails with the following:
| Code: | | glWindow_GLX : No suitable visual |
Actually, it doesn't fail persay, in fact fvwmi is running but I've got nothing on my screen but borderless xterms... any pointers? |
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newbie_100
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| jkalderash wrote: | Could somebody who's gotten it working give a brief howto? I'm not sure where to put the commands - in .xinitrc? In an xterm? On the console? Right now I've gotten Xwnc to start without errors and metisse to connect, but then it fails with the following:
| Code: | | glWindow_GLX : No suitable visual |
Actually, it doesn't fail persay, in fact fvwmi is running but I've got nothing on my screen but borderless xterms... any pointers? |
yeah please someone post a howto... i'm having troubles with getting this to work =\ |
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mm/ol
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:05 am Post subject: |
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Ok, getting this message in Xwnc now
AUDIT: Wed Jun 30 22:04:37 2004: 23578 Xwnc: client 1 rejected from IP 127.0.0.1 port 3279
I don't want rejection! Accept! Accept! |
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jkalderash
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:19 am Post subject: |
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| try the tips about xauth or just run Xwnc with "-ac" - at least, that made metisse not crash, even if it's still doing nothing, |
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isoaga
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:39 am Post subject: |
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Can someone who has gotten this to run please post a quick set of instructions on exactly what they did as my stupididty is still preventing me from finding any "Xwnc" program after an apparently problem free compile.
Please...
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jkalderash
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:57 am Post subject: |
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My Xwnc is at /usr/local/bin/Xwnc . Perhaps /usr/local/bin is not on your path?
Alternatively try this as root to search for the file -
| Code: | | find /usr/ -name Xwnc -print |
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isoaga
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:37 am Post subject: |
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thanx for the reply, i've searched my entire machine but its just not there...
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plasma4 root # find /usr/ -name Xwnc -print
plasma4 root #
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I must have done something wrong during the install but there is only a few steps, and i can't figure how i've stuffed them up, it would be great if someone could post exactly what they did to get it going, even if its just for my sanity.
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jkalderash
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:58 am Post subject: |
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Here's what I've done so far:
| Code: | tar xvjf nucleo-0.1.tar.bz2
cd nucleo-0.1
./configure --prefix=/usr/local
make
su
make install |
Then for metisse:
| Code: | tar xvjf metisse-0.3.0.tar.bz2
cd metisse-0.3.0
./configure --prefix=/usr/local --with-fontpath=/usr/share/fonts/misc,/usr/share/fonts/75dpi,/usr/share/fonts/100dpi
make
su
make install
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then i tried various combinations of commands that have not yet worked, but at least Xwnc existed... please, someone who's gotten this working help us out! |
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dkenn
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| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 6:07 am Post subject: |
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| jkalderash wrote: | | please, someone who's gotten this working help us out! |
Go ahead and compile and install things as per the instructions provided on the website (http://insitu.lri.fr/~chapuis/metisse/download_install.html).
Close out your X session, and at a console, run:
| Code: | | Xwnc -geometry 1280x1024 & |
Obviously you'll have to adjust the geometry setting according to what your specific resolution is. Now, what I did was just edit up a new .xinitrc so I could run the metisse-start-fvwm script...
~/.xinitrc
| Code: | | metisse-start-fvwm -wd :0 |
Then you can just startx and you should be in. I'm about to give this a second test to make sure it still works as I've written it up.
Edit: Yes, that works for me. I'm posting from inside the modified fvwm. |
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