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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Epyon wrote:
Mine says:
DesktopBackgroundImage="home/tom/pictures/anime/Bishi Wallpaper Art Collection vol 1-5\Ghost in the Shell 01.jpg"


Add / in the front:

Code:
DesktopBackgroundImage="/home/tom/pictures/anime/Bishi Wallpaper Art Collection vol 1-5\Ghost in the Shell 01.jpg'


If that doesn't work -- is "1-5\Ghost" part of the filename or is that a new directory?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe I missed the problem with the slashes... Still doesn't work though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Epyon wrote:
There is an ebuild for it. Its just masked.


Doh! I just ran emerge sync and there it is.

Hey, some of us enjoy doing it the hard way. :)

p.s. does anyone know of a good place for icewm themes? What's your favorite, anyway? I'm using icedesert because I'm plain and boring. :) and here's a screenshot just because I'm bored:

http://blog.nephi.org/ss/2004-06-14-205730_1024x768_scrot.png
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Epyon wrote:
I can't believe I missed the problem with the slashes... Still doesn't work though.


Try this -- just copy the image to /home/tom/desktop.jpg and set that as the background, just to see if it works.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Idea #2 -- emerge icebgset and run that. :)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It works now. Thanks :D

It seems icewm didn't like the directory or file name.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:51 pm    Post subject: icewm preferences / keymap Reply with quote

Hey there, I have two IceWM problems:

1) No icewm preferences file.
# emerge icewm
# env-update && source /etc/profile
This completed ok it seemed, but I have no preferences file in ~/.icewm.
Q.Does that sound logical?
(On my other box running Mandrake 9.1 IceWM was loaded with a preferences file an a config tool for editing that file. I copied the Mdk 9.1 file over to ~/.icewm which seemed to work ok, but will need a bit of tweaking of course.)

2) When I'm in non-X console mode, my keys work fine, but when I startx into IceWM and fire up xterm, suddenly I start getting french characters instead of normal keys like \ and |, and some keys are mapped to give me other punctuation. I've edited the /etc/rc.conf file in a few ways, but can't seem to make it work.

Here are the rc.conf edits I've tried.

Original:

KEYMAP="us"
SET_WINDOWKEYS="no"
EXTENDED_KEYMAPS=
CONSOLEFONT="default8x16"
#CONSOLETRANSLATION="8859-1_to_uni"
CLOCK="UTC"
EDITOR="/bin/nano"
PROTOCOLS="1 2"
#DISPLAYMANAGER="xdm"
XSESSION="icewm"

Then I tried the following combinations:

KEYMAP="us"
SET_WINDOWKEYS="yes" [changed]
EXTENDED_KEYMAPS=
CONSOLEFONT="default8x9" [changed]
#CONSOLETRANSLATION="8859-1_to_uni"
CLOCK="local" [changed]
EDITOR="/bin/nano"
PROTOCOLS="1 2"
#DISPLAYMANAGER="xdm"
XSESSION="icewm"

reboot

KEYMAP="us"
SET_WINDOWKEYS="yes"
EXTENDED_KEYMAPS=
CONSOLEFONT="drdos8x14" [changed]
#CONSOLETRANSLATION="8859-1_to_uni"
CLOCK="local"
EDITOR="/bin/nano"
PROTOCOLS="1 2"
#DISPLAYMANAGER="xdm"
XSESSION="icewm"

reboot

KEYMAP="us"
SET_WINDOWKEYS="yes"
EXTENDED_KEYMAPS="backspace keypad" [changed]
CONSOLEFONT="drdos8x14"
#CONSOLETRANSLATION="8859-1_to_uni"
CLOCK="local"
EDITOR="/bin/nano"
PROTOCOLS="1 2"
#DISPLAYMANAGER="xdm"
XSESSION="icewm"

reboot

KEYMAP="us"
SET_WINDOWKEYS="yes"
EXTENDED_KEYMAPS="backspace keypad"
CONSOLEFONT="default8x16" [changed]
CONSOLETRANSLATION="8859-1_to_uni" [changed]
CLOCK="local"
EDITOR="/bin/nano"
PROTOCOLS="1 2"
#DISPLAYMANAGER="xdm"
XSESSION="icewm"

reboot

KEYMAP="us"
SET_WINDOWKEYS="yes"
EXTENDED_KEYMAPS= [changed]
CONSOLEFONT="default8x16"
#CONSOLETRANSLATION="8859-1_to_uni" [changed]
CLOCK="local"
EDITOR="/bin/nano"
PROTOCOLS="1 2"
DISPLAYMANAGER="xdm" [changed]
XSESSION="icewm"

reboot

KEYMAP="uk" [changed]
SET_WINDOWKEYS="yes"
EXTENDED_KEYMAPS=
CONSOLEFONT="default8x16"
#CONSOLETRANSLATION="8859-1_to_uni"
CLOCK="local"
EDITOR="/bin/nano"
PROTOCOLS="1 2"
DISPLAYMANAGER="xdm"
XSESSION="icewm"

reboot: now my non-X console keys are a bit messed up.

Finally, changed to:

KEYMAP="us"
SET_WINDOWKEYS="no"
EXTENDED_KEYMAPS="backspace keypad"
CONSOLEFONT="drdos8x14"
#CONSOLETRANSLATION="8859-1_to_uni"
CLOCK="local"
EDITOR="/bin/nano"
PROTOCOLS="1 2"
DISPLAYMANAGER="xdm"
XSESSION="icewm"

If anyone has some light to shed on this, I'd sure appreciate it!
Meanwhile, I'll keep looking for an answer, and if I find it I'll post a resolution.

cheers,
crusti

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:32 pm    Post subject: keyboard problem resolved Reply with quote

Hey there.
I resolved my keymap problem.

In /etc/X11/XF86Config I edited the following line from:
Option "XkbLayout" "ca"
to
Option "XkbLayout" "us"

Logged out, logged in, and voila! My keys do what they're supposed to now.

:o)

I won't sweat the IceWM config problem, but I'm curious to know if anyone has had the same issue, or if there is a separate emerge to do for an icewm config tool.

Have a great day!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For your own icewm prefs,
Code:
mkdir .icewm
cp /usr/share/icewm/* ~/.icewm


For fixing keyboard settings, I recommend xkeycaps.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2004 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know a battery status monitor that works in the icewm taskbar?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 3:27 pm    Post subject: thanks for the help :o) Reply with quote

Thanks sdibb for the help :)
xkeycaps is pretty neat.

Sorry genstefan, I don't know of such an app :(

cheers
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a new user of Gentoo in general and IceWM in particular, looks very neat :) . However, I miss a few features from GNOME, namely:

The keyboard layout switch thingie - I use three different keyboard layouts, no idea if there's a tray-thingie for them or how to change them.

Sound control applet - visual sound control program like in GNOME.

Dictionary lookup tool.

Also, it would be nice to add another panel or to enlarge the existing one to accomodate all the open windows/tray icons.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 5:51 pm    Post subject: a few suggestions Reply with quote

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The keyboard layout switch thingie - I use three different keyboard layouts, no idea if there's a tray-thingie for them or how to change them.


The only way I can suggest is through an app called xkeycaps.
I know a tray icon would be handier, but someone else will have to provide a can/can't on that.

# emerge --pretend xkeycaps
That' will show you what would be done upon installing xkeycaps.
# emerge xkeycaps
That will install xkeycaps.
For me, the executable is installed in /usr/X11R6/bin/

Quote:
Sound control applet - visual sound control program like in GNOME.


You might try aumix or xaumix.
Somehow I have an app installed called xaumix, though 'emerge --search xaumix' didn't show any results. The settings for xaumix are superseding the settings for aumix, so now I just run xaumix. It's also a gui app, but it's not as pretty as aumix. I use aumix on my Mdk 9.1 box.

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Also, it would be nice to add another panel or to enlarge the existing one to accomodate all the open windows/tray icons.


I make use of the different desktops. I've re-labelled them with letters.
I have a desktop where I open mail and ftp clients, one for browsing and word-processing, one for audio/video. It just means that I use the same desktops for the same kinds of things, and it makes switching more intuitive after a little while.

You can use a double-height taskbar in icewm.
In the file ~/.icewm/preferences
TaskBarDoubleHeight=1 # 0/1

Hope this helps,
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:48 pm    Post subject: Re: a few suggestions Reply with quote

crusti wrote:

You might try aumix or xaumix.
Somehow I have an app installed called xaumix, though 'emerge --search xaumix' didn't show any results. The settings for xaumix are superseding the settings for aumix, so now I just run xaumix. It's also a gui app, but it's not as pretty as aumix. I use aumix on my Mdk 9.1 box.


xaumix is part of aumix.

Code:
$ which xaumix
/usr/bin/xaumix
$ qpkg -f /usr/bin/aumix
media-sound/aumix *


I'd suggest creating an .aumix in your ~ directory. aumix -S or something like that.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woo ... 1.2.15-pre1 is in portage. Seems nice so far. :)

Plus I found a cool keyboard shortcut -- Alt+F10 maximizes the window. Good stuff... :D
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yet another nice shortcut -- shift+click on "X" in the toolbar of the program will force kill it. :)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta add my vote for IceWM being the coolest, most flexible WM ever! I've tried a few (including both gnome and kde) and Ice is just the best.

Learned a lot in this thread, brilliant work all.

Someone also mentioned the "keys". Just as an example, I've got some xmodmap statements in ~/.icewm/startup:

Code:
xmodmap -e 'keycode 234=F15'    # Mail
xmodmap -e 'keycode 233=F16'    # Forward
xmodmap -e 'keycode 222=F17'    # Stop
xmodmap -e 'keycode 236=F18'    # Mail
xmodmap -e 'keycode 230=F19'    # Search
xmodmap -e 'keycode 230=F20'    # Favourites
xmodmap -e 'keycode 178=F21'    # Web/Home
xmodmap -e 'keycode 235=F22'    # My Computer
xmodmap -e 'keycode 161=F23'    # Calculator
xmodmap -e 'keycode 225=F24'    # Sleep

Yes, the two 230 lines are correct. according to xev these keys map to the same value, only using either one of them atm so I don't think it really matters. Then in ~/.icewm/keys you can make these do whatever you want to...

Code:
# These are custom keys, those across the top
# (mapped to F15 -> F24 using xmodmap)
key "F15"                               xmms --rew
key "F16"                               xmms --fwd
key "F17"                               xmms --play-pause
#key "Shift+F17"                xmms --stop
key "Shift+F17"                 xmms_toggle_stop_start
key "F18"                               mozilla -mail
# key "F19" -> Search (unused)
# key "F20" -> Favorites (unused)
key "F21"                               mozilla
key "F22"                               aterm
# key "F23" -> Calculator (unused)
key "F24"                               xscreensaver-command -lock


Very cool. Just a shame those two keys map the same - this worked under xfree86 but xorg is just so much better in almost all other regards.[/u]
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made a theme for IceWM based on a gnome theme call AquaExtremeSunken uses mouse rollover so when you mouse over the buttons on titlebar a +, -, or x just like the orginal theme

http://www.themedepot.org/itemdetail.php4?id=1569
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Epyon wrote:
Mine says:
DesktopBackgroundImage="home/tom/pictures/anime/Bishi Wallpaper Art Collection vol 1-5\Ghost in the Shell 01.jpg"


its the spaces/slashes

use tab completing in terminal to find out where the tabs/slahses should be

for example

Code:

bash-2.05b$ ls *.pdf

d20 - Ravenloft - Gazetteer Volume 1 - WW 15020.pdf

bash-2.05b$ kpdf d20\ -\ Ravenloft\ -\ Gazetteer\ Volume\ 1\ -\ WW\ 15020.pdf


notice where the slashes are?
so should the be in your pref file
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

res0r9lm, nice theme but the titlebar uses 25 px, pretty much space on a laptop. And I do not really like the background of the taskbar and titlebar.
I think this looks better: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=685

but in Smooth aqua the taskbar is blackish and the titlebar rollover buttons do not work they are only shown on click :(
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

which theme do you mean rollovers don't work? The one I made rollover do work if it's not working for you one of your prefernce files is overriding it. If you like the theme that you posted there is already a theme very similar on freshmeat
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Guys, well I wanted to use IceWM but I have a question, or mazbe 2.....well 1. Do I need Xorg-X11 first?Well...the other is...the last time I installed IceWM i got a funny Login Manager....but then I onlz had "Fail Safe" session....Dont know what it is...and also I had no panel...just some kind of it with 4 buttons:ShutDown, Log, Programs Runnig...and another one I cant remember.Well....coud you tell me how to get IceWM Working pls. :))
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First time I actually saw this thread,

I've been using icewm for quite some time. Some time ago I actually filed a bug report and wrote an ebuild "icewm-themes" which is now in portage.

Just figured I'd mention it if there were people that didn't know about it. I was thinking of adding all the themes thats in the debian icewm themes package. At the moment there's only a few themes in the ebuild.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:19 pm    Post subject: and another one :) Reply with quote

Hello !

another good'ol boy using IceWM for a while (some 3-4 years.. don't remember very well...).

I intensively use the winoptions and the keys configuration files:
* to make most used application to open in the workspace i want at the size i want (normally MAXIMIZED ;) ).
* to fire-up most used application with a shortcut (ctrl+shift+app's first letter)

on the first workspace i have aterm+screen (it is started when icewm launches itself --> 'startup' file). I launch aterm with transparent background, no borderds, no scrollbar, maximized.... it's like a console ;)

For the battery issue: i configured screen (.screenrc) to display some useful-coloured-autoupdate informations such as time, date, xterm-title, currently open windows (the SCREEN's windows), the song played by XMMS (with time elapsed+time remainig), the system load, uptime and.... the battery status!

for the XMMS song i sed out the "current" script that comes with XMMS, for battery i sed/grep out the acpi command.

If you want to give a look at my .screenrc, aterm command line options or my scripts, send me a mail (i don't check very often the forums).

i'm elfo on the autistici.org mail server.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seather wrote:
First time I actually saw this thread,

I've been using icewm for quite some time. Some time ago I actually filed a bug report and wrote an ebuild "icewm-themes" which is now in portage.

Just figured I'd mention it if there were people that didn't know about it. I was thinking of adding all the themes thats in the debian icewm themes package. At the moment there's only a few themes in the ebuild.


While you're doing that, don't forget the iceicons ebuild.

Yes, it is just the same freshmeat iceicons link from the first post in this thread, but hey, the more you can leverage Portage for tracking system changes, the better. :)
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