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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 9:17 am    Post subject: Troubles running Xorg on a SunBlade 100 with Expert3D-Lite Reply with quote

Hi all,

I have a SunBlade 100 with an additional SUN 3DExpert-Lite PCI
graphics adapter.
I have troubles get Xorg working with this Device.

Does some have a xorg.conf file which is running for this hardware
configuration?

Many thanks!

Regards,
Roman
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, there is no X11 driver for the Expert video cards. (That I know of, at least.)

Anyone with better information, please post it or contact me directly.

Sorry for the negative report, but this has come up before. So far as I know, the response is
always "there is no support for these cards," and there is definitely not a driver for them
in xorg itself. (That doesn't mean there is no driver. It does mean that if there is one,
we don't have it.) :(

(By the way, in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log, how (if at all) does xorg identify your
Expert card? Maybe we can do something with that information.)
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First, I did a 'Xorg -configure'.

It detected two devices (The on-board adapter and my PCI Adapter).

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "accel" # [<bool>]
#Option "crt_display" # [<bool>]
#Option "composite_sync" # [<bool>]
#Option "hw_cursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "mmio_cache" # [<bool>]
#Option "test_mmio_cache" # [<bool>]
#Option "panel_display" # [<bool>]
#Option "probe_clocks" # [<bool>]
#Option "reference_clock" # <freq>
#Option "shadow_fb" # [<bool>]
#Option "sw_cursor" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "ati"
VendorName "ATI"
BoardName "Rage XL"
ChipSet "ati"
ChipId 0x4752
ChipRev 0x27
BusID "PCI:0:19:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "ShadowFB" # [<bool>]
#Option "DefaultRefresh" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card1"
Driver "vesa"
VendorName "Unknown Vendor"
BoardName "Unknown Board"
BusID "PCI:1:1:0"
EndSection
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the output if I try to start xorg....

sunblade root # Xorg -config /root/xorg.conf.new

Release Date: 18 December 2003
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.7
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.26 sparc64 [ELF]
Current Operating System: Linux sunblade 2.4.26 #1 SMP Tue Jun 22 12:57:56 GMT 2004 sparc64
Build Date: 22 June 2004
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Jun 25 13:45:51 2004
(++) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new"
Using vt 7
(EE) ATI(0): Adapter has not been initialised.
(EE) VESA(1): Cannot read V_BIOS (5)
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

Fatal server error:
no screens found

Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
at http://wiki.X.Org
for help.
Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.



* * *


And here is the end of the log file ...


[34] -1 1 0x00000b00 - 0x00000bff (0x100) IX[B](B)
[35] 1 1 0x000003b0 - 0x000003bb (0xc) IS[B]
[36] 1 1 0x000003c0 - 0x000003df (0x20) IS[B]
(II) Setting vga for screen 1.
(==) ATI(0): Chipset: "ati".
(==) ATI(0): Depth 16, (==) framebuffer bpp 16
(EE) ATI(0): Adapter has not been initialised.
(II) Loading sub module "vbe"
(II) LoadModule: "vbe"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a
(II) Module vbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
(II) Loading sub module "int10"
(II) LoadModule: "int10"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a
(II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 6.7.0, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
(II) VESA(1): initializing int10
(EE) VESA(1): Cannot read V_BIOS (5)
(II) UnloadModule: "ati"
(II) UnloadModule: "atimisc"
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/atimisc_drv.o
(II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
(II) UnloadModule: "int10"
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a
(II) UnloadModule: "vbe"
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

Fatal server error:
no screens found
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2004 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple comments, probably not that useful, but maybe they will give you some ideas.

xorg probably has a driver for the ati card. Depending on just what you have,
there are four drivers to choose from:
ati, atimisc, r128, radeon.
I do not have such a card, so I cannot really discriminate among these.

xorg doesn't know what your Expert card is. It does know about the ati card,
but you are apparently not using it.

You can try plugging in to the ati card unless you need an adaptor for your monitor cable.
If the system will not boot using the ati card, easiest way to check things (in my opinion)
would be just to remove the Expert card. Alternative is to play with OBP (open boot prom)
settings. (But I'd remove the Expert card since there is no X driver for it. Creator 3d Series 2 (ffb2+) is a
good, inexpensive alternative. Especially if you need a cable adaptor even
to plug in to the ati card. Cost either way would be about the same.)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ATI card that is being detected is the onboard framebuffer, though you may need to adjust the framebuffer settings in your kernel to initialize the ATI Rage framebuffer since there is no bios (this is a kernel config option).

As for the Expert3D-Lite, Ferris is correct there is no support for it. Most people can't even get a usable display on the machine with it plugged in and using linux so you seem to be a step farther than most.

If you want to get it working, you'll probably need to talk to the Xorg people to try and get a working driver as none of us have access to one of the Expert cards that I know of.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The onboard Video Adapter runs perfectly...

Thanks for the information!

Regards,
Roman
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