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erg8 n00b
Joined: 23 Jun 2003 Posts: 17 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 8:51 pm Post subject: Prude alert: Sexually explicit wm themes in emerge |
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Does it bother anyone else that the windowmaker-themes package contains sexually explicit material?
I did not know this was the case. Imagine my surprise when I emerged windowmaker-themes and tried out my new slick themes only to find pr0n that my boss would definately not approve of.
Yeah. I can delete it. I know how. But how is it that this stuff is in the emerge in the first place?
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pjp Administrator
Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20067
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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I think it'd be good to have that stuff in obviously marked packages. windowmaker-themes-notsafeforwork, or similar. _________________ Quis separabit? Quo animo? |
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erg8 n00b
Joined: 23 Jun 2003 Posts: 17 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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In order to be completely correct... the offending themes may have come with Windowmaker itself (as opposed to the themes packeage). I'm not sure as I emerged one then the other. |
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pjp Administrator
Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20067
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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I think it applies to the windowmaker folk as well. Since linux isn't just a geek-in-a-dark-closet thing, it would be considerate to seperate it. _________________ Quis separabit? Quo animo? |
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allucid Veteran
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1314 Location: atlanta
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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you should submit a bug report to bugs.gentoo.org
i remember something similar to this being discussed before and somebody brought up having an 'adult' use flag. |
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placeholder Advocate
Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 2500
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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Odd.... I suppose you can check you USE flags in that case. If that's not the case, then I completely agree that this needs changed. Gentoo isn't only for perverts you know. |
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nrl Guru
Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Posts: 446 Location: Glasgow, UK
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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I think the best solution is to make use of the "offensive" USE flag so that unless people have "offensive" in their USE flags they won't get this stuff. After all that's what it's there for, according to the docs the "offensive" USE flag "enables potentially offensive items in packages."
PS A similar situation that occured a while ago with GLSnake:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=155097 |
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placeholder Advocate
Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 2500
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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So -offensive would probably get rid of those problems then? |
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spb Retired Dev
Joined: 02 Jan 2004 Posts: 2135 Location: Cambridge, UK
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Pwnz3r wrote: | So -offensive would probably get rid of those problems then? | Well, it ought to, if the package maintainers used it. As it is, some do and some don't.
@erg8: File a bug asking for the themes you reckon are NSFW to be filtered out when the 'offensive' USE flag isn't set. You shouldn't have much trouble getting it fixed. |
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erg8 n00b
Joined: 23 Jun 2003 Posts: 17 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23635
It appears to me that this is an ongoing problem and the fact that another instance has already cropped up (note the final comment on the bug report), I don't think my comment will add anything to the discussion.
This would be a great place for someone higher up than me to take a stand. (As opposed to what is going on now... bug... fix... bug... ignore... bug... fix...)
People could get fired for this. I could get fired for this. Does anyone at Windowmaker feel at all responsible for the quality of the content they are putting out?
Edit: see also:
http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20030707-newsletter.xml#doc_chap1_sect6 |
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Hypnos Advocate
Joined: 18 Jul 2002 Posts: 2889 Location: Omnipresent
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mat74 Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 04 Jun 2004 Posts: 88
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Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Oh c'mon guys. It's not like there is any wallpaper with some real action on it. Do you really consider nudity as porn?? Don't be so prudish. No one forces you to actually use them.
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scalded n00b
Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 68 Location: US
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 12:52 am Post subject: |
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Any chance of implementing a ++offensive flag so we can get sexually explicit widgets with kdebase? _________________ "...In the year 2005, mankind will face times of great suffering and oppression..." - Vote Arnold 2006, if you want to live. |
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Hypnos Advocate
Joined: 18 Jul 2002 Posts: 2889 Location: Omnipresent
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 12:54 am Post subject: |
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scalded wrote: | Any chance of implementing a ++offensive flag so we can get sexually explicit widgets with kdebase? |
That's one bit of bloat I could use in my GNOME setup _________________ Personal overlay | Simple backup scheme |
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minimizebeefgoo Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Posts: 149 Location: MI, USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 2:19 am Post subject: |
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mat74 wrote: | Oh c'mon guys. It's not like there is any wallpaper with some real action on it. Do you really consider nudity as porn?? Don't be so prudish. No one forces you to actually use them.
:wink: |
Some people have kids. |
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pjp Administrator
Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 20067
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:18 am Post subject: |
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mat74 wrote: | Oh c'mon guys. It's not like there is any wallpaper with some real action on it. Do you really consider nudity as porn?? Don't be so prudish. No one forces you to actually use them.
| In a US work environment, it could cost the person their job and a company a lot of money from a sexual harassment lawsuit. So I say, Oh c'mon, get your own porn/nudity/art that may be inappropriate for some. _________________ Quis separabit? Quo animo? |
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Drooling Iguana Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 94 Location: Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 8:57 am Post subject: |
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* emerges windowmaker-themes *
Gotta get it before it's too late! |
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placeholder Advocate
Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 2500
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:14 am Post subject: |
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I just stick with my own Fluxbox theme and find my own wallpapers. If there's a theme with a nude or slightly nude female, why does it really matter that much? If you get fired for something like that and you don't work in a place where a lot of minors come by, then just sue the place and move on. Or you can just get fired and take it all like a cold rod in the ass when you get a colonoscopy. However, I don't like doing things that way.
Unless the images offend you personally or you work in a day care center, I really don't see what's wrong. I mean, it's not like it's two people having sex, right? |
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Drooling Iguana Tux's lil' helper
Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 94 Location: Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Still, I think it would be a good idea to seperate that type of image from the main themes package.
That way I wouldn't have to sort through the boring "regular" themes to get to the good stuff. |
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ralph Advocate
Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Posts: 2001 Location: Hamburg
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Drooling Iguana wrote: | Still, I think it would be a good idea to seperate that type of image from the main themes package.
That way I wouldn't have to sort through the boring "regular" themes to get to the good stuff. |
emerge Pr0n
Seriously, if these kind of things could get you fired in the US this is a problem and should be resolved. _________________ The computer can't tell you the emotional story. It can give you the exact mathematical design, but what's missing is the eyebrows.
- Frank Zappa |
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sca n00b
Joined: 02 Jan 2003 Posts: 27
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:44 am Post subject: |
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minimizebeefgoo wrote: | Some people have kids. |
Well, every kid will have to learn how a naked women looks like, sooner or later And if you think about some 12yr old, they probably know how to get their pr0n
Back to topic: I wouldn't mind such a flag, as long as it defaults to 'uncensored'. |
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placeholder Advocate
Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 2500
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 9:44 am Post subject: |
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The censorship in the US is horribly ignorant. I mean, is it going to seriously impair a little kid if (s)he sees female breasts? Is it that (s)he's not going to in the future? Especially the she version. |
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Nefarius n00b
Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 48 Location: Graz, Austria
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 10:08 am Post subject: |
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maybe some variables could be added, so emerge transfers only appropriate stuff ;))
mySex=female|male|transgendered|hermaphrodite
myAge=[..]
myOrientation=str8|bisexual|homosexual|pansexual|asexual
and myPost=sick, I know, sorry
3,5hours sleep, 6 hours awake, 4hours on duty, 8hours to go
myPlea=save_me! _________________ Greetings...
Nef |
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tr4nce n00b
Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 68 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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emerge unmerge Janet Jackson |
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asimon l33t
Joined: 27 Jun 2002 Posts: 979 Location: Germany, Old Europe
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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I was very impressed as I installed SuSE 9.1 a couple of weeks ago. When installing fortune a message popped up, which informed that fortune contains offensive cookies but SuSE don't want to censor things and thus they did'nt left out the offensive stuff, and asked for confirmation if it really should be installed.
IMO a much better solution then to not include the offensive fortunes at all.
That would be a good solution for Gentoo too. Mark offensive stuff and let people configure portage to not install/show offensive stuff at all or give warnings on a per package base and ask to confirmation. |
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