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Jonteponte
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 Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 12:13 am Post subject: XF86Config problem |
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I'm trying to se up twinview in XF86Config. I've searched this forum and on google for help but I'm stuck. Whenever I include the line
| Code: | | Options "ConnectedMonitor" "crt,tv" |
and restart my monitor goes blank (and I'm unable to switch to another consol so it's a pain in the ass) and ofcourse there's no TV-output either.
I use a Geforce 4 Ti4200 and this config:
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Section "Monitor"
Identifier "My Monitor"
HorizSync 31.5 - 64.3
VertRefresh 50-120
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce"
VendorName "nvidia"
Driver "nvidia"
# BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
# Option "DPMS"
Option "TwinView"
Option "UseEdidFreqs" "on"
# Option "NvAGP"
# Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-50"
# Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60"
Option "MetaModes" "1024x768,1024x768;800x600,800x600"
Option "TVStandard" "PAL-B"
Option "TwinViewOrientation" "Clone"
Option "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE"
Option "ConnectedMonitor" "crt,TV"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen 1"
Device "NVIDIA GeForce"
Monitor "My Monitor"
DefaultDepth 24
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection
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Everything that is commented out in the Device section has been tested in various way, I've also tried to use only 800x600 in the metamodes (although the card should be able to handle 1024x768). I've also tried "TV,crt" as someone suggested fpr the "ConnectedMonitors" option, but that produced the same result. No "ConnectedMonitors" -> No TV-out, "ConnectedMonitors" -> No monitor or TV-output.
Ideas anyone? Help would be greatly appreciated as usual  |
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Jonteponte
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| Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 9:28 am Post subject: |
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*bump* I know alot of people ask about TV-out and that the people that know how to do it is probably tired of answering questions about it... but I've really really tried getting this to work on my own and I've searched both google and this forum... I've read that Nvidia document that handles TV-out too.
If someone could just point me in the right direction? |
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Beddan
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| Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Hello!
maybe this can help you it works for me..
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
HorizSync 30-70
VertRefresh 50-100
Option "dpms"
# -- 1400x1050 --
# 1400x1050 @ 60Hz, 65.8 kHz hsync
Modeline "1400x1050" 129 1400 1464 1656 1960
1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync
# 1400x1050 @ 70Hz, 76.8 kHz hsync
Modeline "1400x1050" 151 1400 1464 1656 1960
1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync
# 1400x1050 @ 75Hz, 82.3 kHz hsync
Modeline "1400x1050" 162 1400 1464 1656 1960
1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync
# 1400x1050 @ 85Hz, 93.2 kHz hsync
Modeline "1400x1050" 184 1400 1464 1656 1960
1050 1051 1054 1100 +HSync +VSync
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "TV"
HorizSync 30-50
VertRefresh 60
EndSection
Section "Device"
# no known options
Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX (generic)"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX (generic)"
BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX (generic)"
#BusID
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX (generic)"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
DefaultFbBpp 32
Option "DigitalVibrance" "2"
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubsection
Option "TwinView" "On"
Option "TVStandard" "PAL-B"
Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-50"
Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60"
Option "MetaModes" "1024x768,1024x768;800x600,800x600;640x480,640x480"
Option "TwinViewOrientation" "Clone"
Option "ConnectedMonitor" "CRT,TV"
EndSection |
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NePhie
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| Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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if your card has a dvi output you should try connecting your monitor to that, the converter is usually shipped with the card
i had troubles to, until i tried that, for some reason it seems to display through the dvi when i try twinview with my tv
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Jonteponte
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| Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks NePhie! My monitor doesn't turn off anymore when I try to use twinview! But no picture on the TV still  It's just black with a white horizontal line flickering. This is how I've set it up now:
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Section "Monitor"
Identifier "My Monitor"
HorizSync 31.5 - 64.3
VertRefresh 50-120
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
#Is this section needed?
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "TV"
HorizSync 30-50
VertRefresh 60
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "NVIDIA GeForce"
VendorName "nvidia"
Driver "nvidia"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
ection "Screen"
Identifier "Screen 1"
Device "NVIDIA GeForce"
Monitor "My Monitor"
DefaultDepth 24
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Option "TwinView"
Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-50"
Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60"
Option "MetaModes" "1024x768,1024x768;800x600,800x600"
Option "TVStandard" "PAL-B"
Option "TwinViewOrientation" "Clone"
Option "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE"
Option "ConnectedMonitor" "crt,tv"
EndSection
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Jonteponte
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Solved it by changing the TV resolution to 800x600
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Option "MetaModes" "1024x768,800x600;800x600,800x600"
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1024x768
A solution I'm not very happy with. The Gfs4 Ti4200 can handle 1024x768 TV-out. I run 1024x768 TV-out when I'm in Windows, so why does it refuse to work in Linux? |
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eivinn
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Joined: 10 Jul 2002
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Location: Norway
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Jonteponte wrote: | Solved it by changing the TV resolution to 800x600
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Option "MetaModes" "1024x768,800x600;800x600,800x600"
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1024x768
A solution I'm not very happy with. The Gfs4 Ti4200 can handle 1024x768 TV-out. I run 1024x768 TV-out when I'm in Windows, so why does it refuse to work in Linux? |
If you are using a real tv: Why would you use 1024x768? A PAL TV has only 576x? and NTSC even less. At least I wouldn't think about using that high a resolution. You are just losing pixels anyway. |
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Jonteponte
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| eivinn wrote: |
If you are using a real tv: Why would you use 1024x768? A PAL TV has only 576x? and NTSC even less. At least I wouldn't think about using that high a resolution. You are just losing pixels anyway. |
I don't want to restart X everytime I want to TV-out :/ I watch a movie, cartoons etc. everyday from the computer. Since i run 1024x on the computer monitor I'd have to restart X with 800x600 everytime I want to use TV-out. That's why I wanted 1024x768 on both TV and Monitor.
Any other suggestions on how to accomplish this would be greatly appreciated. Maybe it's there right under my nose? Sorry if I'm asking the obvious |
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Messiah
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Joined: 30 Apr 2002
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| Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Uhmm...one thing I managed to get working on Linux and not on Windows was a dektop on the TV and a desktop on my monitor. Different resolutions, different wm's.
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I could switch between the reolutions with Alt+F7 and Alt+F8.
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But, I lost my configuration
Whenever I find it or redo it I will post it, hopefully here, but most definitely on my website www.aydin.nu
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Found another topic:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=14170
Explains in detail how to create the scenario described by me above |
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eivinn
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2002 7:17 am Post subject: |
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This is my working setup as for today:
| Code: | Section "Monitor"
#DisplaySize 330 250 # mm
Identifier "CTX"
VendorName "CTX"
ModelName "XXX"
HorizSync 30.0 - 95.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "MSI GeForce4"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "MSI"
BoardName "Geforce4 Ti4200"
BusID "1:0:0"
Option "NvAGP" "2" #2=AGPGART
Option "NoLogo" "1"
Option "DigitalVibrance" "1" #Value 0-2, brighter colors
Option "CursorShadow" "1"
Option "ConnectedMonitor" "CRT,TV" #Force connected monitors
Option "TwinView" "1" #boolean 1/0
Option "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE"
Option "TwinViewOrientation" "Clone" #"RightOf" "LeftOf" "Above" "Below" "Clone"
Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30 - 50"
Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "60"
Option "MetaModes" "1024x768,800x600;800x600, 800x600; 640x480, 640x480; 800x600, NULL" #Format: "Monitor1, Monitor2;Monitor1,Monitor2"
Option "TVStandard" "PAL-B"
EndSection |
Note that if you use RightOf or something instead of Clone you should not need to worry about different resolutions. You only maximize Xine or Mplayer to your TV screen and it does not interfere with your work. MetaModes 1024x768,800x600 should then do your thing...
Maybe you will have to change TV and CRT if using overlay to play movies?
(Edited: fixed typo) |
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Jonteponte
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2002 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks, that *almost* works well enough Just that with "RightOf" I have some problems maximizing the window when it's on the TV screen, gotta run back and forth. MPlayer I haven't succeeded to maximize on the TV at all, it just maximizes on the computer monitor whenever I choose "full screen". Any tips and tricks you could give me? |
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eivinn
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| Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2002 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Jonteponte wrote: | | Thanks, that *almost* works well enough Just that with "RightOf" I have some problems maximizing the window when it's on the TV screen, gotta run back and forth. MPlayer I haven't succeeded to maximize on the TV at all, it just maximizes on the computer monitor whenever I choose "full screen". Any tips and tricks you could give me? |
To be honest I don't really know how to do this. But this is what the Nvidia-driver doc states:
| Quote: | TwinView is a mode of operation where two display devices (digital
flat panels, CRTs, and TVs) can display the contents of a single X screen
in any arbitrary configuration. This method of multiple monitor use
has several distinct advantages over other techniques (such as Xinerama):
o A single X screen is used. The NVIDIA driver conceals all
information about multiple display devices from the X server; as
far as X is concerned, there is only one screen. |
I think because this driver still provide a Xinerama extension you can enable this explisitly in the serverflags section. This should give your apps a notice on which screen it's on and resolution etc.
| Code: | Option "Xinerama" "boolean"
enable or disable XINERAMA extension. Default is disabled. |
You will just have to try this by yourself. Please let me know if it's successfull, or whatever problems this may lead to. |
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Jonteponte
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| Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2002 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Just enabling Xinerama and not disabling Twinview made the screen to freak out and the computer to hang  Disabling Twinview and enabling Xinerama did nothing Here's what I found on google
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> :: NVIDIA's drivers do not support separate X-screens on a single
> :: card. NVIDIA's drivers use TwinView to display two monitors
> :: on a single card, not Xinerama. NVIDIA's drivers do advertise
> :: the Xinerama protocol so that Xinerama-aware window managers
> :: can get individual head info when in TwinView. From the client's
> :: point of view there is no difference between Xinerama info returned
> :: from NVIDIA's TwinView driver and from a driver that was really
> :: using Xinerama.
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http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/xpert/2002-July/018881.html
I'm still confused to why I can't run 1024x768 on the TV, is it because of the Nvidia-drivers? Like I said, it works in Windows and if there's any losses of pixels it's no pixels I'm missing anyway (looks fine to me).
I'll keep on looking for a solution, and if I eve find one then I'll post it here |
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