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PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2004 11:15 pm    Post subject: I just discovered skippy... Reply with quote

I just discovered skippy,which adds expocity-like features
to any netwm-windowmanager:
http://thegraveyard.org/skippy.php
Have fun!
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you get it to work?
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it doesn't really work for me ...

I am using fvwm, and it can't focus on a window which is on another desktop.
I doesn't take snapshots properly, only works if i cal skippy from the same desktop where the app are located, else they appear black.

Also it doesn't refresh the snapshots it made.

But perhaps it works better with gnome.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sveini:yes it works for me,where did you get stuck?
Jeremy_Z:Isn't there a netwm-module for fvwm?
Snapshots are not updated for perfomance reasons I guess,
but you can force updating with Control+"activation key".
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

quirx wrote:
sveini:yes it works for me,where did you get stuck?".


I can't even compile skippy...

Code:

selaptop skippy-0.4.1 # make
gcc -I/usr/X11R6/include `imlib2-config --cflags` `pkg-config xft --cflags` -g -pedantic -Wall -o skippy skippy.c wm.c dlist.c mainwin.c clientwin.c layout.c focus.c config.c tooltip.c -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lm `imlib2-config --libs` `pkg-config xft --libs`
/tmp/cc9Uzvz1.o(.text+0x800): In function `main':
/root/skippy-0.4.1/skippy.c:200: undefined reference to `imlib_context_set_display'
/tmp/cc9Uzvz1.o(.text+0x80e):/root/skippy-0.4.1/skippy.c:201: undefined reference to `imlib_context_set_visual'
/tmp/cc9Uzvz1.o(.text+0x81c):/root/skippy-0.4.1/skippy.c:202: undefined reference to `imlib_context_set_colormap'
/tmp/cc5kOzzC.o(.text+0x360): In function `mainwin_create':
/root/skippy-0.4.1/mainwin.c:82: undefined reference to `imlib_get_best_visual'
/tmp/cc5kOzzC.o(.text+0x96b): In function `mainwin_update_background':
/root/skippy-0.4.1/mainwin.c:164: undefined reference to `imlib_free_pixmap_and_mask'

/tmp/cc5kOzzC.o(.text+0x9f1):/root/skippy-0.4.1/mainwin.c:176: undefined reference to `imlib_context_set_drawable'
/tmp/cc5kOzzC.o(.text+0xa33):/root/skippy-0.4.1/mainwin.c:177: undefined reference to `imlib_copy_drawable_to_image'
/tmp/cc5kOzzC.o(.text+0xba3):/root/skippy-0.4.1/mainwin.c:191: undefined reference to `imlib_context_set_drawable'
/tmp/cc5kOzzC.o(.text+0xbb8):/root/skippy-0.4.1/mainwin.c:192: undefined reference to `imlib_render_pixmaps_for_whole_image'
/tmp/cc5kOzzC.o(.text+0xe41): In function `mainwin_destroy':
/root/skippy-0.4.1/mainwin.c:250: undefined reference to `imlib_free_pixmap_and_mask'
/tmp/ccmvJCEH.o(.text+0x3bb): In function `clientwin_snap':
/root/skippy-0.4.1/clientwin.c:138: undefined reference to `imlib_context_set_drawable'
/tmp/ccmvJCEH.o(.text+0x3f6):/root/skippy-0.4.1/clientwin.c:139: undefined reference to `imlib_create_image_from_drawable'
/tmp/ccmvJCEH.o(.text+0x56c): In function `clientwin_render':
/root/skippy-0.4.1/clientwin.c:163: undefined reference to `imlib_context_set_drawable'
/tmp/ccmvJCEH.o(.text+0x580):/root/skippy-0.4.1/clientwin.c:164: undefined reference to `imlib_render_image_on_drawable'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [skippy] Error 1



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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved from Documentation, Tips & Tricks to Desktop Environments.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not in portage :(
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

quirx wrote:
sveini:yes it works for me,where did you get stuck?
Jeremy_Z:Isn't there a netwm-module for fvwm?
Snapshots are not updated for perfomance reasons I guess,
but you can force updating with Control+"activation key".


Don't know about a netwm-module.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2004 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sveini:do you have imlib2 installed?
Jeremy_Z:http://fvwm-ewmh.sourceforge.net/
it's for fvwm -2.4.* fvwm-2.5.* supports it natively...
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2004 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

quirx: Yes I have. I did also remerge it...
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2004 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

quirx wrote:
fvwm-2.5.* supports it natively...


I have 2.5.10
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

could anyone provide an ebuild for skippy? :(
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ebuild request submitted

btw, will this work in fluxbox?
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got skippy working in kde, but does anyone know how to compile the skippy-xd? It seems to be the better version, and I dont know what xrender etc means. Are they packages?
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kamagurka wrote:
[url="http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51595"]ebuild request submitted[/url]

btw, will this work in fluxbox?


FYI:
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So far, it's been sucessfully tested using OpenBox-3.2, Fluxbox-0.9.9 (thanks daelstorm!), XFWM4 (thanks SeeSchloss!), Metacity (thanks SmackleFunky!), WindowMaker (thanks SuperBFG7), IceWM (thanks Tomasz Torcz) and KWin (no, BlackBox and ion aren't supported).

Note: if you want to use skippy with WindowMaker, make sure WindowMaker is compiled with gnome support.

Another note: If you use KDE, Skippy might have trouble grabbing the F11 key. You can make it bind to a different key in the config file (see the skippyrc-default file that's in the tarball). Scroll_Lock is reported to work (thanks Dmitriy!).


Thanks for pointing out this app! I've always yearned for Expose but do not have a Mac. Hope an ebuild is committed soon. :)

P.S. Also found a pager app for Fluxbox: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/fbpager/
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I got skippy working in kde, but does anyone know how to compile the skippy-xd? It seems to be the better version, and I dont know what xrender etc means. Are they packages?

The xd-version needs fdo's Xserver...
http://freedesktop.org/Software/XserverProjects
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it didn't work on PekWM :(
Code:
ami@PenPen ami $ skippy
FATAL: WM not NETWM or GNOME WM Spec compliant.

oh well... :\
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2004 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This worked fine for me in the latest version of fvwm

Code:
fvwm-2.5.10-r2


I'm not sure of its usefulness, but its an interesting app :D
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2004 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corky wrote:

I'm not sure of its usefulness, but its an interesting app :D


Well, the Expose concept is cool enough for Apple to devote one full page to it :)
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/expose/
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2004 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

quirx: what's fdo's xserver? I thought there's only one x server? Have anyone tried it with skippy then?
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2004 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

galay2 wrote:
quirx: what's fdo's xserver? I thought there's only one x server? Have anyone tried it with skippy then?


fdo stands for FreeDesktop.Org?
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2004 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright everybody, I'm here just to put props to hyriand (the writer of skippy). He doesn't browse the boards, but I'll let him know you guys appreciate it.
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2004 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It works with the latest PekWM.. I just verified. very nice app. Good find.
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2004 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But is everyone experiencing this? When the window changes, the scaled down version does not get updated.
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2004 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

galay2 wrote:
But is everyone experiencing this? When the window changes, the scaled down version does not get updated.


I believe that's a Skippy-XD feature, not 'regular' Skippy
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