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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2004 5:43 pm    Post subject: What happened to Portage/Mac OS X? Reply with quote

Hi,

last year, Portage for OS X was announced for September 2003. The project site (http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/macos-1.xml) was lastly updated at 07-Jul-2003.

Does somebody know, what's the state of this project?

I would really like to have Portage on OS X.

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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2004 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can try an alternative in the mean time.
http://darwinports.opendarwin.org/
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2004 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I know Darwinports and Fink, but I would like to use Portage and its ebuild-system.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2004 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Porting everything to BSD-standards wouldn't be fun. I think fink takes care of that really well. Fink compiles stuff on your machine, too. So it's really not all that different.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2004 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well,

I've had several dependency-problems with Fink, so I hope to get rid of them with Portage.

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2004 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=161512&highlight=osx+portage
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=119538&highlight=os+x+portage

I don't think its dead yet ;)

and yeah depencency hell seems quite common in fink, I've had problems with it too, but it has allowed me to load lots of handy unix programs on my mac.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2004 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That are good news :wink: I was afraid, the project has died.

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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Portage/OSX is still on my todo list.

Daniels departure and some other things like switching to a quarterly release schedule, the birth of PPC64, a too strict portage-ng roadmap... caused my agenda to be overloaded, leaving little or no time for portage/osx and portage/cygwin. Portage/cygwin is progressing slowly but steadily now (a bit later than expected), and I would like to see portage/osx take off too.

Browsing these forums I learned that most likely there will be other people (some currently frustrated with progress ;-) ) who can help out. People having python programming experience and willing to work on

a) coding the remaining features for OS X compliance
b) fixing some OS X related bugs
c) creating/patching ebuilds to make them work on OS X

as an official gentoo developer should contact me asap. The developers will be mentored by me and given a quiz, to get to know all the ebuild/portage tricks for making an ebuild compatible with an alternative architecture or platform.

Best regards,

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2004 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm getting my first Powerbook soon :) I would probably keep OSX on it for the different experience and full hardware support. As such, I would also love to have Portage work with OSX. Then I was wondering if this site: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/macos-1.xml is the official source with which we can check for updates? as the original poster pointed out, it's not updated since a long time. Sadly I have no skills to help with this project.
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would imagine that the departure of Mr. Daniel Robbins has stalled that particular development. I get the general impression that the ppc team is a little hard up for help without trying to port Portage to non-Gentoo environments. Much as I'd lov to see Portage running on (in?) OSX, I do understand that the Gentoo dev team's first priority is, well, Gentoo.
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2004 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think Daniel really did all that much on it aside from getting the first hacked up version running, then it was dumped in other people's laps and stopped.

There was an announcement of an alliance between fink, darwin ports, and Gentoo/OSX but not sure anything came from that aside from the agreement.

RangerRick does a great job with Fink (which I've used for quite some time) and I haven't run into the dependancy problems other people have had. Gentoo/OSX is a _huge_ undertaking, in fact moreso than porting to another linux architecture would be, so it may take some time before things are super useful here ... just my 2 cents worth
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As much as I hate to say it, and this is not meant to be an indictment against any of the developers, or to start a flamewar, but I have essentially given up on ever seeing a version of Portage for OS X. It would be a great novelty, but it does not seem that there is a large enough following in the Gentoo community to merit it being more than a pipe dream. Most PPC users who want to run OS X are willing to fully install Linux and run MOL with reduced functionality. I come back and check on this project every couple months, but seeing the current pace of the project as an infinitely small but nonzero amount of progress in the past _YEAR_, I can't believe that it will ever happen.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think anyone can disagree with that. I would rather have a pure gentoo system anyway. But shouldn't there be a list of things you can do for any version of portage to work in it? I know there is a Installing portage on other linux distros tutorial. My question would be-- what would you do differently to do it on OSx? Gentoo is similar to unix anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big differences ... Gentoo is Linux based ... OSX is (loosly) BSD based ... whole different ballgame there from the kernel on up. Apples and Oranges (excuse the pun) :wink: [/b]
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2004 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Portage-on-Mac OSX project has really taken off since the WordWide Developer Conference 2004!

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Subject: [gentoo-osx] Macos Development Kit
Date: July 14, 2004 3:32:06 PM MDT
To: gentoo-osx@lists.gentoo.org

For those wanting to jump in on development and start sending us patches, feedback,,...
Here's our current installer: http://www.metadistribution.org/macos/

Make sure to read the included readme. There's a howto draft on: http://wrongplanet.net/howto.pdf
Screenshots: http://wrongplanet.net/gentoox2.png

We're cooking up a nice gentoo.org website and we're porting more ebuilds, writing new features at full speed.

Keep the bits in perspective. Tiger and Panther compatible. Help is always welcome.

Have fun,

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK so who's installed it ? :)
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

clar77 wrote:
OK so who's installed it ? :)



A bunch of us..

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=199882
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