nvidia-kernel broken with linux-2.6.15-gentoo-r1 ?

gnychis

Hi,

I recently emerged the new gentoo sources with linux-2.6.15-gentoo-r1, before this I was using (and am now using until this is fixed), linux-2.6.14-gentoo-r5

Whenever i built the 2.6.15 kernel, i emerged nvidia-kernel again, and then I rebooted

when I executed "startx", my screen froze on a black screen, however ctrl+alt+del rebooted my computer safely, so it was still responsive

I did not see the NVIDIA logo as you usually do when you startx, all i got was the blank screen

Anyone else having this problem?

Thanks!
George

EEPS · Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:31 pm Post subject:

Same problem here. Tried using the drivers from nvidia.com as well, but I can't even get X to start with those. Someting must have changed in 2.6.15.

Drunkula · Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:51 pm Post subject:

Odd. I'm not having an issue with mine. I have an FX5700 card if that makes any difference.
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gnychis · Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:02 pm Post subject:

hmmm...

i have a 6800gt, i have no clue if it makes a difference too... i think it wouldn't make a difference, maybe we can all give system specs to find a common denominator

Pentium 4, socket 478, HT 3.0ghz
1gb of mem
Abit ic7-max3 board
software raid 0
leadtek 6800gt

viniciusferrao · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Posts: 83

Strange, i get this continuously...

Sometimes X loads other times no...

Monitor get blank screen and let indicates no signal =/
Ctrl+alt+del dont work, only reset to reboot

GF 6800GS PCI-Ex here

Lasker · Guru Joined: 17 Jul 2002 Posts: 445

I was just running into the same problem, as already posted here:
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-426443.html
I thought I'm the only one and it could have something to do with my outdated nvidia drivers
or I might have made a mistake, but now I think it's better to participate here in this thread.
Btw, 'make mrproper' didn't solve it. I also saw that during a fresh installation of the nvidia drivers
NVmakedevices was executed, but didn't do anything: still no nvidia nodes in /dev. When executing
NVmakedevices by hand, the nodes are created but startx then always leads to a black screen (as
already described in my original post).

For the records, I'm using nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r5 and nvidia-glx-1.0.6629-r6 which are still running
fine with my old 2.6.12-gentoo-r9 sources.

With both kernels the nvidia module is loaded but looks different, (both are from the the same version!):

Headrush · Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 8:31 pm Post subject:

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gimpel · Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:01 pm Post subject:

a friend from german channel had also probs with his GF, while i didn't have any with my FX.

he tried all versions of the driver available in portage, and found out that nvidia-kernel-1.0.7676-r1 works well, while none of the others does.

So for those of you running a GF, try that version.
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Appleonkel · Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:04 pm Post subject:

Hi all,
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after many Crashs it works for me on 2.6.15

but only with version =1.0.7676-r1

gimpel · Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:05 pm Post subject:

oh, there he is

moo Appleonkel, hehe! (can't delete my post anymore)
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Lasker · Guru Joined: 17 Jul 2002 Posts: 445

It's most likely something wrong with this new kernel and nothing else.
To verify, I just installed the last available sources from the 2.6.14 series (2.6.14-gentoo-r5)
with the original config file I've used for compiling the 2.6.15 kernel and this still works with
my older nvidia drivers. I had some issues with the /dev/nvidia nodes not being created, but
at least NVmakedevices.sh did work here. I had to change the entry in /etc/conf.d/rc
RC_DEVICE_TARBALL to "yes" to solve this.

Someone told me that the 2.6.15 kernels won't work with older nvidia drivers anymore. On the
long run this would mean you'll need to upgrade to the newest hardware in the future if you want
use the latest kernel. I can't believe it! Is this acceptable? I still want believe it's just a bug...

gimpel · Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:18 am Post subject:

gnychis · Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:27 am Post subject:

i will be very dissapointed if nvidia drops support on GF cards in the nvidia kernel and me not being able to upgrade my kernel

nice found on a working nvidia-kernel version with the 2.6.15 kernel

lets keep this alive and maybe we should post a bug report somewhere?

freddyk · n00b Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 9 Location: Riga/ Latvia

Hi there!

I had the same problem with 2.6.15 and a FX 5200 card. With the ~x86 version of nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx (1.0.8178-r3) everything is working fine.

Cheers,
Markus

noergeli · Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 11:57 am Post subject:

Don't know if this might help on this topic, but it might explain some of the different experiences with this nvidia stuff that users have.

Some weeks ago i got an old GF4 mx460 , a Medion card from a discount-pc.
I experienced some Problems, that can be found in several forum threads:

1. 6629 driver did work nice, but the 7xxx drivers i tried resulted in hardlocks at boot, only hint i found in logs was a kernel panic.
When i tried the first 8xxx driver it didn't hardlock anymore, but the screen stayed black and the only possible input has been strg+alt+del to reboot.

2. Vesa-fb support broke with kernel 2.6.13 or 2.6.14. I used to boot with grub-option "vga=794", suddenly my boot screen stayed black until the start of X. This problem is not related to nvidia-drivers.

3. I'm running a rarely used win-partition and even on installing the latest forceware-drivers windows totally crashed ending up in a reboot. Older nvidia win-drivers did work allright.

I recently run the MSI LiveUpdate win-utility to look for updates/drivers for my MB, and it recognized my Medion Card, that is manufactured by MSI as a MSI-card and offered a vga-bios update to me. Not much to loose i ran this update and that really solved all of the problems mentioned above.
I'm now running kernel 2.6.15 and nvidias 8178 drivers, and didn't have a single problem until now. It's weird, but it's true.

Though i don't think this occurs to all problems with nvidia-cards, it seems that some problems are really related to buggy firmware.

joev · n00b Joined: 09 Jun 2004 Posts: 7

=nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r5 also does not work (for me) with =gentoo-sources-2.6.15-r1

Lasker · Guru Joined: 17 Jul 2002 Posts: 445

brazzmonkey · Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:04 pm Post subject:

have you tried the latest 88xx drivers ? also you might have to add an option (which i can't remember atm, i'm at work - i may check tonite if you want) in your xorg.conf, because there seems to be a refresh rate issue with those drivers and some cards.

gnychis · Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject:

i have not tried those drivers yet

where can we submit a bug report? Do we submit to nvidia hoping they will care? Or do submit a kernel bug support? Certainly we can do both...

JerMe · n00b Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 18

have you guys tried:

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gnychis · Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:47 pm Post subject: Re: Quadro FX 330 also broken.